Alex Sandro

Have to disagree, we should go for WC talents when the opportunity arises. Had we not go in for him, there will be a chance for other teams to go in for him. This is the same situation with Ashley and Bridge
he is talented but for that price it makes absolutely no sense. 60 million. i dont think conte will ever pay that much for a wing back, especially when we have a quality one like alonso. Its not like alonso messed up last year and we need an upgrade. We just need someone to compete with him and make him better, wud rather spend that kind of money in defence or upfront. 60nM for van dijk no probs witrh me on that front but not on a wingback

 
he is talented but for that price it makes absolutely no sense. 60 million. i dont think conte will ever pay that much for a wing back, especially when we have a quality one like alonso. Its not like alonso messed up last year and we need an upgrade. We just need someone to compete with him and make him better, wud rather spend that kind of money in defence or upfront. 60nM for van dijk no probs witrh me on that front but not on a wingback
You will change your mind when you see how good Sandro is. Also, the improvement Hazard will have because of him.

 
he is talented but for that price it makes absolutely no sense. 60 million. i dont think conte will ever pay that much for a wing back, especially when we have a quality one like alonso. Its not like alonso messed up last year and we need an upgrade. We just need someone to compete with him and make him better, wud rather spend that kind of money in defence or upfront. 60nM for van dijk no probs witrh me on that front but not on a wingback
But we are spending that sort of money on defence and upfront too. Does that mean you'd rather buy 2 60m+ Forward or 2 60m+ CB?. Plus, buying A. Sandro now would have secured the LWB spot for 5 - 6yrs something we used to have with Ashley

 
You will change your mind when you see how good Sandro is. Also, the improvement Hazard will have because of him.
I know he is good. I just dont see the point of throwing useless money in a position we are covered for when we have more important positions to figure out. Like CB MIDfield and striker. I dont mind 60 M on all 3 positions coz we need upgrades on cahill matic and a striker on Costas level .

 
he is talented but for that price it makes absolutely no sense. 60 million. i dont think conte will ever pay that much for a wing back, especially when we have a quality one like alonso. Its not like alonso messed up last year and we need an upgrade. We just need someone to compete with him and make him better, wud rather spend that kind of money in defence or upfront. 60nM for van dijk no probs witrh me on that front but not on a wingback
I keep referring back to this example: Would you say no to buying Sanchez for our RF spot just because Pedro (and Willian) performed well for us last year? You don't say no to elite talent. It's what wins you the CL. Our midfield wasn't weak when we bought Ballack. Neither was our defense weak when we bought Ashley Cole. I can go on and on. Barca didn't really need to buy Suarez, by your logic. They had Sanchez after all. But you don't say no to the chance to sign a Suarez. Won them a CL immediately. 

 
I know he is good. I just dont see the point of throwing useless money in a position we are covered for when we have more important positions to figure out. Like CB MIDfield and striker. I dont mind 60 M on all 3 positions coz we need upgrades on cahill matic and a striker on Costas level .
Sandro himself will take the massive workload off of Hazard which Alonso doesn't do. Defenders will no longer be able to triple mark Hazard when they have Sandro gunning down the left with him. Alonso is a good defender but he's not a great one, he will be exposed in the Champions League in my honest opinion. Sandro is an elite left back and when you have the option to buy world class players, that's exactly what you should do in order to be a big club.

 
But we are spending that sort of money on defence and upfront too. Does that mean you'd rather buy 2 60m+ Forward or 2 60m+ CB?. Plus, buying A. Sandro now would have secured the LWB spot for 5 - 6yrs something we used to have with Ashley
My issue is the price not the player. I am not worried coz i know Conte is smarter than that. Its like last season when Napoli were asking for 55M for kouilabily. What did Conte do . He said f**k that bought luiz.. I am sure we will get a quality wing back for deent price

 
I know he is good. I just dont see the point of throwing useless money in a position we are covered for when we have more important positions to figure out. Like CB MIDfield and striker. I dont mind 60 M on all 3 positions coz we need upgrades on cahill matic and a striker on Costas level .
We aren't covered at LWB. With the signing of Sandro, NOW we're covered. And who says signing Sandro means we won't spend at CB (VVD/Bonucci), midfield (Bakayoko) and striker (Lukaku)? If the club is pursuing all these deals at the same time, it's clearly because we can comfortably afford it all. So why are you complaining?

 
My issue is the price not the player. I am not worried coz i know Conte is smarter than that. Its like last season when Napoli were asking for 55M for kouilabily. What did Conte do . He said f**k that bought luiz.. I am sure we will get a quality wing back for deent price
Conte isn't the one negotiating transfers mate. And we did offer what Napoli were asking for Koulibaly eventually but we offered it too late and so they rejected it again because we didn't give them enough time to find a replacement before the window closed. And so we went with Luiz on deadline day. Let's not rewrite history here.

 
My issue is the price not the player. I am not worried coz i know Conte is smarter than that. Its like last season when Napoli were asking for 55M for kouilabily. What did Conte do . He said f**k that bought luiz.. I am sure we will get a quality wing back for deent price
But what's the point in buying somebody like Bertrand for say 25m when he's not going to improve us in the slightest?

Koulibaly and Luiz are different because neither are world class.

 
I keep referring back to this example: Would you say no to buying Sanchez for our RF spot just because Pedro (and Willian) performed well for us last year? You don't say no to elite talent. It's what wins you the CL. Our midfield wasn't weak when we bought Ballack. Neither was our defense weak when we bought Ashley Cole. I can go on and on. Barca didn't really need to buy Suarez, by your logic. They had Sanchez after all. But you don't say no to the chance to sign a Suarez. Won them a CL immediately. 
Obviously not. My issue is the position. Cole wasnt bought for 60 million, ballack was free

 
Obviously not. My issue is the position. Cole wasnt bought for 60 million, ballack was free
Ballack had a sign on bonus too. Cole cost us 5 million and one of our best defenders in Gallas. 

If you keep worrying about price tags in situations like this, you'll never be comfortable with us signing another world class player again. 

You need to wake up and realise that the market has changed drastically. 60m is the new 30m, for all intents and purposes. I think with that in mind, you can reassess your views.

 
My issue is the price not the player. I am not worried coz i know Conte is smarter than that. Its like last season when Napoli were asking for 55M for kouilabily. What did Conte do . He said f**k that bought luiz.. I am sure we will get a quality wing back for deent price
Did you not see the way we went with the transfer last year? We played around like children trying to lower the price and then went in for 60m anyway except it was far too late. Conte switched to Luiz because otherwise there are no one there available. Heck, just because Luiz was a successful bargain doesn't mean he was our first choice or 2nd choice.

You are now even starting to contradict yourself. If we didn't need A. Sandro for a position that we desperately need more cover then surely we shouldn't even look for a CB when we have multiple options for that role. We have Luiz, Cahill, Azpi, Christensen, Zouma and Ake so we are sufficiently covered already. Why are we going for a 60m+ CB? Because there is a chance to upgrade and you never say no to better talent

 
Ballack had a sign on bonus too. Cole cost us 5 million and one of our best defenders in Gallas. 

If you keep worrying about price tags in situations like this, you'll never be comfortable with us signing another world class player again. 

You need to wake up and realise that the market has changed drastically. 60m is the new 30m, for all intents and purposes. I think with that in mind, you can reassess your views.
For the last time.My issue is not with the price. it is the position. 60 million for a wingback REALLY.  Its not like Alonso is trash like wayne bridge

 
For the last time.My issue is not with the price. it is the position. 60 million for a wingback REALLY.  Its not like Alonso is trash like wayne bridge
Last season, we suffered when the wingbacks were nullified/unavailable and now we are in for someone who would improve that position and quite possibly become the best in the world in that position, you say no? Are you Wenger?

 
For the last time.My issue is not with the price. it is the position. 60 million for a wingback REALLY.  Its not like Alonso is trash like wayne bridge
You JUST said the opposite minutes ago.....

My issue is the price not the player. I am not worried coz i know Conte is smarter than that. Its like last season when Napoli were asking for 55M for kouilabily. What did Conte do . He said f**k that bought luiz.. I am sure we will get a quality wing back for deent price
Pick a point and stick to it mate. Is your issue the price, the position or the player???

60m for the second best LB in the world, yes. How much do you think Madrid would let Marcelo go for in this market (hypothetically speaking)? Or Bayern and Alaba? 

And since when is Wayne Bridge trash? He was a very serviceable full back, not sure where you're getting that from. Let's not act like Alonso is some titan. Alonso is a good player. No more, no less. We need more than "good players" to win the CL. Especially when he's supposed to be playing behind Hazard and cleaning up after Hazard. As has been said above, teams would never be able to put 3 players on Hazard with a player like Sandro overlapping. If you don't want that, then I'm sorry you feel that way. Roman's not complaining about the money so why are you? Is it coming out of your pocket?

 
There were points in games that I saw teams double marking A. Sandro. If Hazard and Sandro were on the same side, would that mean congestion on our left side of the field or would that mean more free kicks from the left? Or both?

 
There were points in games that I saw teams double marking A. Sandro. If Hazard and Sandro were on the same side, would that mean congestion on our left side of the field or would that mean more free kicks from the left? Or both?
The real master stroke would be for us to then add Sanchez at RF. An congestion on the left wing and the ball will be swung quickly to the right for the kill in open space.

Short of that though, I still think it'll give our right wing a lot of freedom to do damage. And if opposing teams decide to go man to man on Sandro/Hazard, we all know the quality of both players and what they can do. 

That Herrera man marking on Hazard would never have been successful if Hazard had an outlet like Sandro supporting him.

 
If Lukaku does as well as costa we may well be a threat in the champs league. Maybe we need a bit more down the right but I think with Sandro and maybe bakyoko being upgrades, fab stays, we will have the beating of an ageing juve and an ageing bayern.

Have to beat citeh and Spurs as well of course and mourinho always does well in season two.

 
You JUST said the opposite minutes ago.....

Pick a point and stick to it mate. Is your issue the price, the position or the player???

60m for the second best LB in the world, yes. How much do you think Madrid would let Marcelo go for in this market (hypothetically speaking)? Or Bayern and Alaba? 

And since when is Wayne Bridge trash? He was a very serviceable full back, not sure where you're getting that from. Let's not act like Alonso is some titan. Alonso is a good player. No more, no less. We need more than "good players" to win the CL. Especially when he's supposed to be playing behind Hazard and cleaning up after Hazard. As has been said above, teams would never be able to put 3 players on Hazard with a player like Sandro overlapping. If you don't want that, then I'm sorry you feel that way. Roman's not complaining about the money so why are you? Is it coming out of your pocket?
I am not complaining. and i am not worried bcoz i know conte wont spend 60 million on a wingback same way he wont spend 55million on koullibally who was overpriced. My issue is the price for the position. 60m for a wingback is pretty laughable. it is obviouslly just a transfer rumor bcoz there is nothing going on . 

 
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