Alex Sandro

It just seems that Sandro has never pushed for this transfer to happen. I can understand Juve's reluctance to lose their third defender in a matter of days, but it's easy to keep knocking back bids when the player in question isn't even asking to let him go.

 
It just seems that Sandro has never pushed for this transfer to happen. I can understand Juve's reluctance to lose their third defender in a matter of days, but it's easy to keep knocking back bids when the player in question isn't even asking to let him go.
Am just a bit baffled why we waited till they sold bonucci too then put a 70m bid in, was this just another save face moment? Like lukaku situation.

 
Am just a bit baffled why we waited till they sold bonucci too then put a 70m bid in, was this just another save face moment? Like lukaku situation.
I don't think we waited. This was just the latest bid they rejected. That's why I mentioned Sandro not doing his part being part of the problem. Clearly Alves and Bonucci made it abundantly clear they wanted to leave. 

 
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Alex Telles from Porto is cheaper and will become just as good
Don't think Telles is an upgrade on Alonso tbh.

If we are just looking for squad depth we should look for someone home grown, Shaw, Davies and Cresswell I think would be good options to compete with Alonso, I also quite like Robertson but looks like he is heading to Liverpool and Bertrand would be decent back up.

Sandro and Alaba are the only 2 players I see taking that position to the level above Alonso, and it looks like both are unattainable.

 
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unless sandro pushes for the move then it ain't happening because juve don't wanna lose alves and bonucci in one window.

 
I know it's been a bad summer for the youth and academy prospects, but we also have jay dasilva who is currently captaining England u19's to the euro finals. 

 
unless sandro pushes for the move then it ain't happening because juve don't wanna lose alves and bonucci in one window.
Juve has already let Bonucci and Alves go

Alex Telles from Porto is cheaper and will become just as good
So we go from 2nd choice Brazil LB to Brazil's 3rd choice? Much rather we use Kenedy or Baba than wasting money

 
fair enough. I have seen de sciglio play lwb for Italy so assumed that was his main position, but I know he is right footed, so he is probably more effective on the right. 

Have milan transfers got juventus fans feeling nervous? I was a massive series a fan in late 90's when it was the best league in the world. I would be good to have milan and inter competing seriously again. 
traditionally Juve and Milan are the biggest serie A teams and despite historically competing there was generally never bad blood and enmity among the clubs and fans. Also because Juve traditionally dominates more domestically while Milan focused on CL.

This changed after the 2006 scandal when Juve was relegated and Inter and at a lower degree Milan took advantage of the situation, despite being more heavily involved in the same type of behaviours for which juve was destroyed. That soured the relationship because Milan went on winning their 7th CL despite being found guilty in the same year of our relegation. Of course at the time the head of the government happened to be Milan president and the head of Italian FA a former member of Inter board of directors.

Since then relationships have gone south worsened by an episode in 2012 (first Conte's title) when a regular goal was disallowed to Milan against us.

So while we do not have the same type of deep rooted hatred we have for the joke of Serie A that is Inter, there is no more love left with Milan either  :biggrin:  

Bonucci transfer to Milan is a massive blow that goes well beyond the technical aspect because Bonucci has been one of the leaders of this Juve's cycle and he has been the most vocal supporter of juve's values often going to see matches among the fans when he could not play. He was supposed to become captain next year after Buffon will leave, but clearly there was a fall off with the coach and the club and along with the silly money offered by Milan he decided to go. You do not wanna read his and his wife's social feed these days for the amount of abuse they are taking by fans  :biggrin: :rolleyes:

Not really classy I know but it is a sign of how much it hurts. Of course we would have preferred he went to Chelsea or City, but they did not want to move from Italy and Juve clearly wanted to get rid of the problem asap. I think the club should have pushed more for a transfer abroad, it is a big mistake

 
traditionally Juve and Milan are the biggest serie A teams and despite historically competing there was generally never bad blood and enmity among the clubs and fans. Also because Juve traditionally dominates more domestically while Milan focused on CL.

This changed after the 2006 scandal when Juve was relegated and Inter and at a lower degree Milan took advantage of the situation, despite being more heavily involved in the same type of behaviours for which juve was destroyed. That soured the relationship because Milan went on winning their 7th CL despite being found guilty in the same year of our relegation. Of course at the time the head of the government happened to be Milan president and the head of Italian FA a former member of Inter board of directors.

Since then relationships have gone south worsened by an episode in 2012 (first Conte's title) when a regular goal was disallowed to Milan against us.

So while we do not have the same type of deep rooted hatred we have for the joke of Serie A that is Inter, there is no more love left with Milan either  :biggrin:  

Bonucci transfer to Milan is a massive blow that goes well beyond the technical aspect because Bonucci has been one of the leaders of this Juve's cycle and he has been the most vocal supporter of juve's values often going to see matches among the fans when he could not play. He was supposed to become captain next year after Buffon will leave, but clearly there was a fall off with the coach and the club and along with the silly money offered by Milan he decided to go. You do not wanna read his and his wife's social feed these days for the amount of abuse they are taking by fans  :biggrin: :rolleyes:

Not really classy I know but it is a sign of how much it hurts. Of course we would have preferred he went to Chelsea or City, but they did not want to move from Italy and Juve clearly wanted to get rid of the problem asap. I think the club should have pushed more for a transfer abroad, it is a big mistake
And I'm guessing there is no way Juve would sell Sandro now?
Not even if Matic was used to sweeten the deal? 

 
And I'm guessing there is no way Juve would sell Sandro now?
Not even if Matic was used to sweeten the deal? 
no I think Sandro was never on the market and selling it now would really be a suicide even for silly money. Of course if the player gets crazy and starts pushing hard is possible but Juve at this point should really be strong-armed to let him go even for 70 millions.

I think they have offered him an extension of the contract with increased salary and a promise to consider offers next year like they did with Pogba in 2015. If Sandro leaves as well I thinks that the huge technical problem would not even be the worse part, fans would start becoming really crazy and the season would risk being compromised

 
traditionally Juve and Milan are the biggest serie A teams and despite historically competing there was generally never bad blood and enmity among the clubs and fans. Also because Juve traditionally dominates more domestically while Milan focused on CL.

This changed after the 2006 scandal when Juve was relegated and Inter and at a lower degree Milan took advantage of the situation, despite being more heavily involved in the same type of behaviours for which juve was destroyed. That soured the relationship because Milan went on winning their 7th CL despite being found guilty in the same year of our relegation. Of course at the time the head of the government happened to be Milan president and the head of Italian FA a former member of Inter board of directors.

Since then relationships have gone south worsened by an episode in 2012 (first Conte's title) when a regular goal was disallowed to Milan against us.

So while we do not have the same type of deep rooted hatred we have for the joke of Serie A that is Inter, there is no more love left with Milan either  :biggrin:  

Bonucci transfer to Milan is a massive blow that goes well beyond the technical aspect because Bonucci has been one of the leaders of this Juve's cycle and he has been the most vocal supporter of juve's values often going to see matches among the fans when he could not play. He was supposed to become captain next year after Buffon will leave, but clearly there was a fall off with the coach and the club and along with the silly money offered by Milan he decided to go. You do not wanna read his and his wife's social feed these days for the amount of abuse they are taking by fans  :biggrin: :rolleyes:

Not really classy I know but it is a sign of how much it hurts. Of course we would have preferred he went to Chelsea or City, but they did not want to move from Italy and Juve clearly wanted to get rid of the problem asap. I think the club should have pushed more for a transfer abroad, it is a big mistake
He has a son with an illness right? Even I wouldn't uproot my family just for a couple of millions more if it meant we had to readjust our lives whilst taking care of my son

 
no I think Sandro was never on the market and selling it now would really be a suicide even for silly money. Of course if the player gets crazy and starts pushing hard is possible but Juve at this point should really be strong-armed to let him go even for 70 millions.

I think they have offered him an extension of the contract with increased salary and a promise to consider offers next year like they did with Pogba in 2015. If Sandro leaves as well I thinks that the huge technical problem would not even be the worse part, fans would start becoming really crazy and the season would risk being compromised
So we can go for him next year?  :biggrin:

 
He has a son with an illness right? Even I wouldn't uproot my family just for a couple of millions more if it meant we had to readjust our lives whilst taking care of my son
yes his little one was very sick last year and luckily recovered from it, but he is still under medical attention in Turin

 
So we can go for him next year?  :biggrin:
possibly :) I actually think that we have a good subs in Spinazzola that is at Atalanta till next year and had a phenomenal season last year. You should have gone for Bonucci this year damn it!  :rolleyes:

 
possibly :) I actually think that we have a good subs in Spinazzola that is at Atalanta till next year and had a phenomenal season last year. You should have gone for Bonucci this year damn it!  :rolleyes:
I doubt he'd accept it. But who knows, we've got Rudiger now. 

Question, what do you think of Rudiger? Is he good or bad?

 
They let Pogba and Pirlo go in 1 summer, it could happen. You never know

If anything, the time to leave is now while they're rebuilding their defense. Chiellini and Barzagli will only decline and they're going to transition De Sciglio. If A. Sandro goes now, they still have time to find replacements
No Pogba was sold last year. Pirlo left in 2015 along with Tevez and Vidal and in fact the following season we had a terrible start. This summer is really unlikely especially after Bonucci left

 
If we can't get Sandro I could see us going into the season with Alonso and Baba. I don't think we're going to buy any old left back, I think Sandro was seen as an upgrade but not many others who would possibly improve on Alonso would be available.

That, or don't rule out a bid for Bertrand. £30m and increases the homegrown quota. 

 
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