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yorkleyblue said:
Not getting at you, @Argo but therein lies a great deal of the problem with internet fan forums and the quality of comment that they generate.  A huge number of members in here and most other football forums never actually see the players in the flesh, or watch a game from the stands, but get a lot of their footballing knowledge from Sky/BT , the newspaper/news web site of their choice and football manager games on their PCs.

Play the games and also see the matches and you can form an informed opinion, which may or may not gel with what FIFA shows you.  Take away the immersive experience, and the end result is people with hard-line opinions based on those games and Sky pundits, and that leads to some of the nonsense we get posted in here, and idiots actually betting against their own team, based on their gaming experience and predictions.

But then, I still like a crack on DOOM II .
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Don't get me wrong i have never actually formed a final opinion on a player based on what i discover on the game, but it can be a gateway to introducing you to a few players you wouldn't else have come across. For example i started watching Las Palmas and Nice games last season after discovering Mauricio Lemos and Vincenzo Koziello and after doing so, with the risk of looking silly in a few years time i am convinced both will make it at a big club, it's looking like Barca for the former and unfortunately i think the latter will end up at Arsenal.

 
Thought I'd drop by for updates on Sandro but I must be on the wrong page...is the PS / PC and Xbox forum?  seems its all about FIFA.

 
dkw said:
Stupid isnt it....especially as PES is obviously better anyway.....
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All rubbish.

Football games ended after Championship Manager 01/02!!!

:p

(Those manager games were a good way to find about about players. I would trust their attribute ratings to be quite accurate... And the amount of people working on them globally... They are in the know when it comes to a lot of the young up and coming talents.)

 
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yorkleyblue said:
The trouble with that is that you are not "watching him play", you are watching an algorithm making decisions in a simulation of what a group of programmers have defined is a way to simulate life.  So the opinion you are forming is about how those definitions appeal to you or otherwise, and an opinion on how well those programmers do their job, within the commercial remit of the company that employs them and the limitations of the technology.  In other words, FIFA has as much legitimate value in the real world of football as the monsters and BFG in DOOM have in my attempts to master distant planets and crumbling nuclear research facilities.
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And I agree totally with what you said here. I didn't mean watching him play on FIFA, it's more about looking at the supposed attributes of the player ie speed etc to get some idea about the player but that shouldn't be the basis of forming of opinions, opinions of said player should be formed after watching him in real life.

 
Can't see us signing him in January he's cup tied for champions league isn't he? Maybe in the summer Juve would be more willing to do business.

 
I worry some other club will sign him way before us , if united can bid for dybala why are we not even having a try we are the champions 

 
Because we are no longer willing to pay top dollar for players. The board wants to look at cheaper options, with potential, rather than world class players who will walk into the starting 11. It's just the philosophy they are going with nowadays, perhaps brought on by the spiralling costs of the new stadium.

 
Zeta said:
Because we are no longer willing to pay top dollar for players. The board wants to look at cheaper options, with potential, rather than world class players who will walk into the starting 11. It's just the philosophy they are going with nowadays, perhaps brought on by the spiralling costs of the new stadium.
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But that was old time , the best team known to do that was United in era of Alex ferguson , now even they splash cash bringing Pogba , lukaku , i dont want to see us losing again like this , if liverpool able to land lemar and keita than we are so doomed

 
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 just read that Juventus are still demanding around £60m for Sandro (telegraph)

 
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Of course we do, because we were never going to pay what they wanted. Man utd or someone will come in, pay what they want and that will be that.

 
"This is not the left back you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along."

- Juventus, 2017

 
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