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coco said:
This is why the club need to make noise about this, we have no voice, who’s meant to be the clubs mouthpiece ? We’re too soft. 
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Exactly 

could you imagine Jose ? He would be screaming at everyone over this 

 
coco said:
This is why the club need to make noise about this, we have no voice, who’s meant to be the clubs mouthpiece ? We’re too soft. 
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We never used to be. When Abramovich first arrived, and even a decade after, we would stick up for ourselves and not take this kind of thing lightly. I think Mourinho was a huge positive on the club in that area, we fed off it at times. I don't know what changed but the club suddenly became soft and just stopped sticking up for itself. There is no way the likes of United or Liverpool would accept this kind of thing. We have had high profile refs exposed with their comments and comments made by their colleagues when it comes to us now, yet nothing has been done. The club should be kicking up a massive stink about this.

 
Scott Harris said:
We never used to be. When Abramovich first arrived, and even a decade after, we would stick up for ourselves and not take this kind of thing lightly. I think Mourinho was a huge positive on the club in that area, we fed off it at times. I don't know what changed but the club suddenly became soft and just stopped sticking up for itself. There is no way the likes of United or Liverpool would accept this kind of thing. We have had high profile refs exposed with their comments and comments made by their colleagues when it comes to us now, yet nothing has been done. The club should be kicking up a massive stink about this.
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Totally agree, we could start off by contacting Howard Webb and demand that VAR goes fully transparent, get mics in front of their mouths and lets hear them explain their thoughts live, like in rugby and cricket. 

 
coco said:
Totally agree, we could start off by contacting Howard Webb and demand that VAR goes fully transparent, get mics in front of their mouths and lets hear them explain their thoughts live, like in rugby and cricket. 
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Microphones are not the answer - because in this instance, it is highly likely that all you would hear is "check complete".

The only reliable way to stamp out these corrupt/unjust decisions is to have a variation of the following:

1) Having a challenge system for managers to use. 5x challenges per game - and in each challenge, the ref MUST look at the replay on the screen, and then give a justification in real time (which can be on mic) to the managers.

2) Having post game press conferences with refs, with the big decisions being replayed and the refs having to justify their decisions. This has the benefit of accountability, transparency and educating those who are less familiar with all the rules.

If they know they will be forced to explain the decisions, then it will stamp out the tendency to be dishonest.

 
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nonotnowjim said:
Microphones are not the answer - because in this instance, it is highly likely that all you would hear is "check complete".

The only reliable way to stamp out these corrupt/unjust decisions is to have a variation of the following:
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Mikes will work .. see field hockey they go frame by frame sharing what they are checking for.

VAR is already a challenge mechanism- you can’t have a challenge on a challenge.

what’s the point of a conference post game. They will make up an excuse - real time is what matters.

 
nonotnowjim said:
Microphones are not the answer - because in this instance, it is highly likely that all you would hear is "check complete".

The only reliable way to stamp out these corrupt/unjust decisions is to have a variation of the following:

1) Having a challenge system for managers to use. 5x challenges per game - and in each challenge, the ref MUST look at the replay on the screen, and then give a justification in real time (which can be on mic) to the managers.

2) Having post game press conferences with refs, with the big decisions being replayed and the refs having to justify their decisions. This has the benefit of accountability, transparency and educating those who are less familiar with all the rules.

If they know they will be forced to explain the decisions, then it will stamp out the tendency to be dishonest.
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We don’t need all that complication, we just need to hear what’s going on in the decision making, they will act differently, it’s a bit like putting a bodycam on a cop, it keeps them in line.

 
Scott Harris said:
We never used to be. When Abramovich first arrived, and even a decade after, we would stick up for ourselves and not take this kind of thing lightly. I think Mourinho was a huge positive on the club in that area, we fed off it at times. I don't know what changed but the club suddenly became soft and just stopped sticking up for itself. There is no way the likes of United or Liverpool would accept this kind of thing. We have had high profile refs exposed with their comments and comments made by their colleagues when it comes to us now, yet nothing has been done. The club should be kicking up a massive stink about this.
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There should be a full investigation into the Clattenburg and  Dean admissions of corruption.

Clattenburg could have denied Leicester the title by not wanting to issue red cards that he admits he should have done but didn't want to be the " person to deny spurs the title"  preferring that they would do it to  themselves . That's not in his gift , red cards were down to Spurs violence, he shouldn't be thinking about their title challenge , f**king idiot 

And Dean's admission thankfully has been picked up by all fans on other clubs sites, it's being condemned by all fans, everyone apart from the Refs association.

People saying Dean just made a mistake are incorrect 

He deliberately made a wrong and corrupt decision , he knew it was wrong , he knew what the right decision was , but he refused to do his job. No mistake in it.

This shouldn't be left to fade away or forgotten

 
I'd like to know what the conversation in the VAR was with Dean.  Does he discuss it with others ?

And he told Taylor what he had done.

Taylor should have spoken up instead of keeping his trap shut . He should be quizzed about this and suspended until we know what happened.

The lack of concern from those at the top is disgusting.

 
The Rising Sun said:
I'd like to know what the conversation in the VAR was with Dean.  Does he discuss it with others ?

And he told Taylor what he had done.

Taylor should have spoken up instead of keeping his trap shut . He should be quizzed about this and suspended until we know what happened.

The lack of concern from those at the top is disgusting.
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The way Mike Dean was talking on sky sports when quizzed about it was shocking, he was even smiling about it, whilst the panelists and presenter all looked on with jaws dropped, it felt weird.

 
Considering how litigious Americans usually are it wouldn't surprise me if our owners at least threaten to take some of the groups/people involved to court.

 
ESP - GER : How can anyone be so poor referee as Taylor? 

 
JPH said:
ESP - GER : How can anyone be so poor referee as Taylor? 
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No YC for Kroos at the start was ridiculous. Gave licence for countless dodgy tackles, cheating, et al, until the YCs started to rain like confetti.

 
El regreso said:
The worst refs so far unsurprisingly are the English refs
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The thing that surprises me is that both Oliver & Taylor have been given 1/4 games. They certainly won’t get semi final games but if England don’t somehow fluke progress to the final I suspect that one of them will get the final

 
dermott said:
No YC for Kroos at the start was ridiculous. Gave licence for countless dodgy tackles, cheating, et al, until the YCs started to rain like confetti.
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Yes, Kroos should have been sent off with two YC at 6 min. 

 
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