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Rudiger playing all 90 looks promising, could fully expect him to start against Sheffield and probably getting minutes against Norwich too.

 
Bonzodog29 said:
Anyone know if it was a reoccurrence of the injury that forced him off at half time? 
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It wasn’t, sounds like he strained his groin a little and they brought him off as a precaution.  Knee is all good.

 
mwblue10 said:
It wasn’t, sounds like he strained his groin a little and they brought him off as a precaution.  Knee is all good.
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That was my thought. After a long time out they didn't want to take any risks, especially at 3-0 up.

 
mojo said:
 
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FFS please leave him out completely until he's 100% fit I don't want him to be rushed back every minute just to be injured again we just have to stick together until he's fully fit. Continue with three at the back
 
If we continue with three at the back, then presumably someone from the academy will make the bench to provide the defensive cover ... Guehi perhaps ?

 
I think i'd be starting Tomori and Christensen against Valanecia and Liverpool if we have a 4 at the back, Zouma is getting an awful lot of stick, some of it warranted, some of it not, but I just don't think he has the composure or ball playing ability to play in a back 4 with the style we are looking to play. It's a shame because he's a pretty decent physical player, but he's not a fantastic footballer, which just doesn't seem to cut it anymore at the top clubs, you have to have everything. 

 
Can't Dave play in a three with Tomori and Christensen? Can Kante or Reece James play right MF?

If only Luiz had let us know he was f*cking off before we loaned Ampadu.

 
Saw a stray comment at the end of an article somewhere that Rudiger has just returned to full training with the squad so should be back soon.

 
Andy North said:
Can't Dave play in a three with Tomori and Christensen? Can Kante or Reece James play right MF?

If only Luiz had let us know he was f*cking off before we loaned Ampadu.
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Wouldnt have made a difference to Ethan I don't think, it was Tomori who's immediate future at the club was saved by David's decision.

 
Argo said:
Wouldnt have made a difference to Ethan I don't think, it was Tomori who's immediate future at the club was saved by David's decision.
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You are probably right.

At this point in time I think Ampadu is better than Tomori. How the club deal with that I don't know. Maybe time will help but for me Ampadu has quality and shows leadership skills. Frank will favour Tomori but he's made some real cock ups lately. I think he would be dropped if Christensen was fit.

For me Rudiger and Zouma are our best CBs but given games I think Ampadu pushes them and Christensen is back up. Tomori needs to shape up or face going out on loan next season. I'm being hard on Christensen there but I'm not convinced he has the strength to compete at top level. He is premiership quality but maybe midtable.

 
Andy North said:
You are probably right.

At this point in time I think Ampadu is better than Tomori. How the club deal with that I don't know. Maybe time will help but for me Ampadu has quality and shows leadership skills. Frank will favour Tomori but he's made some real cock ups lately. I think he would be dropped if Christensen was fit.

For me Rudiger and Zouma are our best CBs but given games I think Ampadu pushes them and Christensen is back up. Tomori needs to shape up or face going out on loan next season. I'm being hard on Christensen there but I'm not convinced he has the strength to compete at top level. He is premiership quality but maybe midtable.
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The good thing for Ampadu is that he can comfortably step in to midfield too. I can see him being good cover for Jorginho in the long run. 

 
Munkworth said:
The good thing for Ampadu is that he can comfortably step in to midfield too. I can see him being good cover for Jorginho in the long run. 
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He hasn't been playing at Leipzig so he's having a bad loan. Maybe we should bring him back or send him to Derby or something. I really like him and think he can play a big part in the team. It's really tough Sh*t for him not being here this season when the young guys are getting a chance. He needs to hold down a position and maybe that is in midfield but for me he is more of a defensive midfielder than one who distributes and starts attacks. He has a lot going for him but the best thing is his maturity and leadership skills. He has a big personality and the best teams have a lot of that in the dressing room. Maybe Tomori will come good but its not looking to good at the moment so I feel doubly sorry for Ampadu.

 
Andy North said:
He hasn't been playing at Leipzig so he's having a bad loan. Maybe we should bring him back or send him to Derby or something. I really like him and think he can play a big part in the team. It's really tough Sh*t for him not being here this season when the young guys are getting a chance. He needs to hold down a position and maybe that is in midfield but for me he is more of a defensive midfielder than one who distributes and starts attacks. He has a lot going for him but the best thing is his maturity and leadership skills. He has a big personality and the best teams have a lot of that in the dressing room. Maybe Tomori will come good but its not looking to good at the moment so I feel doubly sorry for Ampadu.
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Very harsh on Tomori, he has come into the team and done extremely well - he's definitely a better center-back than Ampadu at this moment in time. We were leaking goals for fun at the start of the season, but since Tomori has come into the team (half time against liverpool) we've only conceded 2 goals and generally looked a lot more comfortable at the back. Yes, he's made a few errors with the ball at his feet, but I'm not too worried about that as he's only young and his decision making will improve with experience. Tomori won our academy player of the year and also POTY for Derby last season and I can see why. Great talent.

 
DannyVblue said:
Very harsh on Tomori, he has come into the team and done extremely well - he's definitely a better center-back than Ampadu at this moment in time. We were leaking goals for fun at the start of the season, but since Tomori has come into the team (half time against liverpool) we've only conceded 2 goals and generally looked a lot more comfortable at the back. Yes, he's made a few errors with the ball at his feet, but I'm not too worried about that as he's only young and his decision making will improve with experience. Tomori won our academy player of the year and also POTY for Derby last season and I can see why. Great talent.
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Yes it is a bit harsh. I hope Tomori makes it but for me Ampadu didn't make those types of errors. They are both talents with heaps of potential.

At some point Frank will have to decide who comes first and I trust his judgement. It was harsh to send Ampadu out on loan and Leipzig aren't even playing him so he is wasting his time there. It would be a terrible shame if he didn't make it at Chelsea. We'll see how it pans out but I think he deserves another shot at Chelsea.

 
Andy North said:
He hasn't been playing at Leipzig so he's having a bad loan. Maybe we should bring him back or send him to Derby or something. I really like him and think he can play a big part in the team. It's really tough Sh*t for him not being here this season when the young guys are getting a chance. He needs to hold down a position and maybe that is in midfield but for me he is more of a defensive midfielder than one who distributes and starts attacks. He has a lot going for him but the best thing is his maturity and leadership skills. He has a big personality and the best teams have a lot of that in the dressing room. Maybe Tomori will come good but its not looking to good at the moment so I feel doubly sorry for Ampadu.
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Tomori for a very young and inexperienced player is performing brilliantly ,so your comments about coming good and not looking good 

are very strange and difficult to comprehend . Are you sure you you've been watching him not someone else !!

 
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