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bisright1 said:
Jesus christ guys, can we put the pitchforks away.
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I think it's understandable. Fans are upset and angry and hearing the news that Rudiger was a problem is just going to piss them off even more. 

If there is no truth behind this, then it would take Rudiger 10 seconds to set the record straight. He's on social media, all he needs to do is say the media is lying and that would put an end to it.

 
It doesn't fit the narrative right now, but Leicester was the first game that featured Rudiger as a starter that we have actually lost this season ...  won 5 drawn 2 lost 1 when he has started.

 
Scott Harris said:
I think it's understandable. Fans are upset and angry and hearing the news that Rudiger was a problem is just going to piss them off even more. 

If there is no truth behind this, then it would take Rudiger 10 seconds to set the record straight. He's on social media, all he needs to do is say the media is lying and that would put an end to it.
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Yeah I understand, I just wish we wouldn't be so quick to believe everything you read and get so angry.

He can't make a statement and comment on rumours. That doesn't help things and you'd end up with more people angry at him. 

If Rudi has been saying to the board that there are problems with Frank, then for me he is well within his rights to. He is a senior member of the team, he's not been treated unfairly by Frank, he's got his chance back in the team, he's been playing. I want our senior members to be able to call out when things are awful. We were all very happy for Frank and JT to do that back in the day, Rudi for me is one of 3 or 4 players in the team who should be able to voice their opinion in the right channels.

But I can't believe he's been fighting with players, bullying, etc. That all smells fishy to me. If he has been doing that and Frank's been playing him, then that's a weakness on Franks part and I don't think Frank is like that, I think he'd happily sideline a player who needed to be sidelined. 

 
bisright1 said:
Yeah I understand, I just wish we wouldn't be so quick to believe everything you read and get so angry.

He can't make a statement and comment on rumours. That doesn't help things and you'd end up with more people angry at him. 

If Rudi has been saying to the board that there are problems with Frank, then for me he is well within his rights to. He is a senior member of the team, he's not been treated unfairly by Frank, he's got his chance back in the team, he's been playing. I want our senior members to be able to call out when things are awful. We were all very happy for Frank and JT to do that back in the day, Rudi for me is one of 3 or 4 players in the team who should be able to voice their opinion in the right channels.

But I can't believe he's been fighting with players, bullying, etc. That all smells fishy to me. If he has been doing that and Frank's been playing him, then that's a weakness on Franks part and I don't think Frank is like that, I think he'd happily sideline a player who needed to be sidelined. 
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I don't understand why people keep saying Rudiger can't make a statement. Oscar did it when he was accused of having a bust up with Costa and that put an end to it. If he hasn't had bust ups with Azpilicueta and the younger players, then just say it's not true. Why are we pretending like this is something he can't comment on? The silence makes him look guilty and the fans will never forgive him and his career here is finished if he doesn't deny any of this.

I also disagree with Rudiger going to the board to complain about Lampard, and I especially disagree with him being one of the only players in the squad we should allow to do this. What has Rudiger done in his career that gives him that kind of status? 

Rudiger only had himself to blame for being sidelined by Lampard, his performances have been terrible. It can be argued that out of the 5 CB's we have played in the past season and a half, he has been the worst. When you are that bad for that long, you can't complain when the manager no longer favours you, and if the bust ups with teammates are true, then that is even more reason to freeze him out.

 
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Can somebody explain what Rüdiger has actually done in order to be branded a snake and harassed by so-called Chelsea fans online? Or do we just have an incredible number of morons amongst our fanbase these days? (that second question is somewhat rhetorical)

I'm not interested in Twitter tittle-tattle, and I'm also aware he has not posted anything on social media lately (it's bizarre that people are taking this to mean anything at all).

 
bluedave said:
Can somebody explain what Rüdiger has actually done in order to be branded a snake and harassed by so-called Chelsea fans online? Or do we just have an incredible number of morons amongst our fanbase these days? (that second question is somewhat rhetorical)

I'm not interested in Twitter tittle-tattle, and I'm also aware he has not posted anything on social media lately (it's bizarre that people are taking this to mean anything at all).
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Do we even know that it is our fans? Judging by some of the recent signups on here it could easily by troublemakers from other clubs trying to stir up trouble online.

 
bluedave said:
Can somebody explain what Rüdiger has actually done in order to be branded a snake and harassed by so-called Chelsea fans online? Or do we just have an incredible number of morons amongst our fanbase these days? (that second question is somewhat rhetorical)

I'm not interested in Twitter tittle-tattle, and I'm also aware he has not posted anything on social media lately (it's bizarre that people are taking this to mean anything at all).
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He apparently "went to the board and got lampard sacked" 

He is so powerful he got the manager sacked, also he allegedly "bullied some young players."

Seems he ran the place apparently 🤦🏾

 
Sheva said:
Tammy has come out and defended Rudiger and calling it nonsense. 

Ignore the chelsea twitter community. Alot of nobodies seeking their own fame and thinking they are important to the club and the fan base. 
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Yep, now we can go back to worrying about him being a prat in a footballing sense and cut the personal sh*t out. Felt a bit uneasy with how his guilt was quickly assumed.

 
While I think it's nice to see players coming out in support, I hardly think it refutes some of the accusations. The club wouldn't particularly like to see the perception that a player is a bully or engaged in bullying.

Maybe it is genuine or maybe it's a bit of PR damage control. Who knows?

 
TomCFC85 said:
While I think it's nice to see players coming out in support, I hardly think it refutes some of the accusations. The club wouldn't particularly like to see the perception that a player is a bully or engaged in bullying.

Maybe it is genuine or maybe it's a bit of PR damage control. Who knows?
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The club  can't force players to post anything they don't want on social media. 

This was all nonsense to distract from the sacking same thing happened under Jose last spell she couldn't even spell the names correctly. Idiots looking for someone to blame 

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Brutos said:
The club  can't force players to post anything they don't want on social media. 

This was all nonsense to distract from the sacking same thing happened under Jose last spell she couldn't even spell the names correctly. Idiots looking for someone to blame 
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Nope, but they can totally find "other reasons" to isolate you, make you train with youth, get sent on loan, delay contract extensions etc etc etc if you catch my drift.

 
Surely it would make sense to have Rudiger and Azpi make a statement rather than have Tammy do it if it was club orchestrated. And we haven't heard a peep out of Rudiger himself yet.

Seems genuine to me.

 
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