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Antonio Rudiger

Spiller86 said:
I think Rudiger has a few flaws but I think he is a top player. In some ways the back three suits him same as Christensen. It means others can cover when he has a brain fade which can happen from time to time.
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But he is not only not making mistakes now he is putting in epic blocks, charging up the pitch, full of aggression, I hope it lasts because in current form he is top tier and the fact he is starting for Germany shows his ability is being recognised (who also play 3) I think the 3 at tte back is psychological it suits raw players because it releases some pressure off them and allows them to just focus on what they are good at 

 
Rudiger's done those mistakes he usually makes when things boil over. The game against France he for some weird reason followed Pogba and was about 30m out of place which led to France scoring. Not 100% his fault but Hummels found himself alone defending in the box and he had to make that move which led to own goal. 

I am 50/50 on Rudiger. If he was to leave I feel we can cope with what we have. Guehi, Sarr and even Muyamba waiting to shine. 

He was brilliant for us for half a season. You have to consider his whole time at Chelsea which has been between sh*te and brilliant. Even nowadays with Tuchel I feel he can do things on the pitch you don't want to see. His best and worst attribute is his head. 

 
evissy said:
Rudiger's done those mistakes he usually makes when things boil over. The game against France he for some weird reason followed Pogba and was about 30m out of place which led to France scoring. Not 100% his fault but Hummels found himself alone defending in the box and he had to make that move which led to own goal. 

I am 50/50 on Rudiger. If he was to leave I feel we can cope with what we have. Guehi, Sarr and even Muyamba waiting to shine. 

He was brilliant for us for half a season. You have to consider his whole time at Chelsea which has been between sh*te and brilliant. Even nowadays with Tuchel I feel he can do things on the pitch you don't want to see. His best and worst attribute is his head. 
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Guehi, Sarr and Muyamba are nowhere near as good as Rudiger. In a back 3, Rudiger is world class, when you switch to a back 4, then things start becoming a problem because he plays on the edge. You need a cool head in a back 4.

 
Scott Harris said:
Guehi, Sarr and Muyamba are nowhere near as good as Rudiger. In a back 3, Rudiger is world class, when you switch to a back 4, then things start becoming a problem because he plays on the edge. You need a cool head in a back 4.
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Real Madrid won a few Champions League with Ramos and Pepe togheter in a back 4, maybe if you put two hot heads together itcancels each other out.😉

 
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People from FC Bayern, not sure if that is directors, players or both, are rumored to have talked to Toni during the Euros and he could be heading there next year when his contract expires. 

Been very quite from both him and the club about a new deal.

 
axman2526 said:
People from FC Bayern, not sure if that is directors, players or both, are rumored to have talked to Toni during the Euros and he could be heading there next year when his contract expires. 

Been very quite from both him and the club about a new deal.
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Wow we could lose Rüdiger, AC and Silva all at once... would be damn hard to replace.

 
True Blue23 said:
Wow we could lose Rüdiger, AC and Silva all at once... would be damn hard to replace.
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But we've got many young defenders coming thru........

I'm sure AC will resign - been at the club a long time and a strong start to the season he'll get a significant bump.  Toni is a risk, and Silva we knew all along.  Makes Kounde all the more important.

 
Rudiger is looking less and less likely to sign a new deal.

Not only are Bayern chasing him, now PSG are making known a big contract is in the offering if he leaves next summer.

 
According to the Spanish sports newspaper As, Real Madrid are tracking Rudiger and would be interested in getting him on a free next season.

 
RMH said:
According to the Spanish sports newspaper As, Real Madrid are tracking Rudiger and would be interested in getting him on a free next season.
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PSG, like Real, have put proposals to Rudigers agent.

He is considering these. Has told TT he is fully committed for the season however his next deal is likely his last big, long term deal and he wants to get it right. Chelsea managers come and go quickly and he went from being fully out of favour to back in quickly. So he is less than sure a long term commitment will see him get maximum game time.

 
I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave for a new challenge.  Would be a loss and think he is a core part of TT's setup.  That said, I think we can find the next Rudiger also (still hoping he resigns).

 
axman2526 said:
PSG, like Real, have put proposals to Rudigers agent.

He is considering these. Has told TT he is fully committed for the season however his next deal is likely his last big, long term deal and he wants to get it right. Chelsea managers come and go quickly and he went from being fully out of favour to back in quickly. So he is less than sure a long term commitment will see him get maximum game time.
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In Real Madrid he's got to compete with Alaba and Militao, who will probably be the starting CBs this season and will get established. And I don't think that Madrid plays with a back 3 very often for him to get into the defence. At PSG they have Marquinhos, Kimpembe, Ramos... Not sure he's got more chances in any of those teams than at Chelsea. But I see his point from what you mention.

 
axman2526 said:
PSG, like Real, have put proposals to Rudigers agent.

He is considering these. Has told TT he is fully committed for the season however his next deal is likely his last big, long term deal and he wants to get it right. Chelsea managers come and go quickly and he went from being fully out of favour to back in quickly. So he is less than sure a long term commitment will see him get maximum game time.
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Apparently for him to sign a new contract with Chelsea he wants a payrise that would make him one of the club's top earners. He'll be 29 at the end of the season so handing a bumper pay rise to player who will be 33/34 by the time the deal expires isn't typically what Chelsea would do. 

Unless player and club can meet in the middle over his demands then I think there's a good chance he walks for free at the end of the season. 

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Apparently for him to sign a new contract with Chelsea he wants a payrise that would make him one of the club's top earners. He'll be 29 at the end of the season so handing a bumper pay rise to player who will be 33/34 by the time the deal expires isn't typically what Chelsea would do. 

Unless player and club can meet in the middle over his demands then I think there's a good chance he walks for free at the end of the season. 
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Given one of the offers he has on the table is PSG, who can offer a lot of money as we once more saw with Messi, I expect he will be letting the club know just how much he could earn elsewhere, while also pointing out how much we spent on Lukaku.

I think if we want to keep him it would be smart to not hand out a 5 year deal rather a 3 year one in case he declines or TT leaves.

I agree though I think he leaves, as does Christensen imo. Chalobah gives us one replacement. I think our backline is going to go through some changes over the next two seasons.

 
Totally unhappy about scenario of Rudi maybe not signing an extension, pay him what he’s worth, he’s started season magnificently..

 
axman2526 said:
PSG, like Real, have put proposals to Rudigers agent.

He is considering these. Has told TT he is fully committed for the season however his next deal is likely his last big, long term deal and he wants to get it right. Chelsea managers come and go quickly and he went from being fully out of favour to back in quickly. So he is less than sure a long term commitment will see him get maximum game time.
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I am pretty sure he will leave for free, It is pretty clear that the number that psg or rm offered is way above what we are willing to give him. 

 
Ballack & Blu said:
Totally unhappy about scenario of Rudi maybe not signing an extension, pay him what he’s worth, he’s started season magnificently..
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Apparently wants a contract that would put him amongst the top earners at the club. 

The club wage bill is being well managed at the moment. We have the lowest wage growth of the other top 6 sides. Throwing large contracts at everyone who ask for one would undo a lot of good work the club have done. 

Not renewing Drinkwater's contract this year will probably help as part of wage reductions along with Zappacosta leaving on a permenant deal and hopefully AC Milan buying Bakayoko. 

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