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Antonio Rudiger

Looks like RLC will be sent out on loan with Brighton and Newcastle interested...

 
He liked Zouma posing in new Nike-kit. Those lads are compatriots and team-France teammates.....

 
Read this on another forum thought it was a good read so I'll share it here not my own work.

Nope, it's done already. Everything agreed in principle, player just needs to have a medical and sign the contract.

A Roma supporter told me their club needed €30M income by the end of June to comply with FFP, so that's where the Rüdiger sale comes in and that's why the deal was agreed out of the blue in less than 24 hours. It all happened because their sale of Kostas Manolas to Zenit fell through at the last minute and they needed to complete another deal fast. If (or rather when) the sale to Chelsea goes through, Roma will get the transfer fee income included in their financial books for year 16/17 because it was already agreed before the end of last month and they're in clear waters with UEFA.

However if a club like Man City now hijacked the deal and records show that the transfer was only agreed in July, Roma would be f**ked with FFP sanctions because the income would appear on their books for 17/18 and for last year they'd be €30M short of complying with the rules. Any reports linking the player to Man City are just tabloids writing sh*t and trying desperately to sell papers. 

 
This deal is pretty much done now, we just need to get f*cking Sandro done... 

 
Finally signing him, I have wanted him since last season, so good on the ball, and very good defender with huge potential also very versatile, very shrewd signing. 

 
Gazetta dello sport are reporting that his agent has flown into London and that a medical may happen as early as tomorrow...fee and personal terms agreed...

 
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lchk said:
If Rudiger is indeed Conte's choice, I offer no objection whatsoever.  Just that his performances at Roma hasn't been exactly top notch from what I have seen and recall. 

By the way, do post more often.  Your posts are almost always a good read.
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I don't watch Roma play, all I know is they came second last year in Serie A and Rudiger was always selected when available, and this after coming back from injury.

I've seen it said many times in this thread he's not really an upgrade on Cahill, which may or may not be true the way things stand, I couldn't comment. It's all just opinions anyway and as I've said, I don't really watch Roma play.

What I do know is Cahill was 2 years older when he signed for us, he had the same amount of club games under his belt (around 200) but those had been largely at a lower level, with Burnley, Villa, Sheffield Utd and Bolton. He had been released at Villa because Martin O'Neill didn't rate him. He had already played for England by the time we'd signed him and we got him for a cut-price deal because he only had 6 months remaining on his contract. Having said that, we didn't have to compete with any other big clubs for his signature and we bought him mainly through necessity rather than design. He came in the January transfer window if I remember rightly.

Now, Cahill has been a good signing for us, we definitely got his best years, he's won the lot and he's got more than 50 caps for England. He may not be a Terry or Ferdinand but he's a good player and he's been an asset for us, although I'm not arguing that there are better out there.

Looking at everything you have to say Rudiger's ceiling is far higher, so those comparing him unfavourably with Cahill need to consider we're buying him at a younger age than we bought Cahill and he has far more pedigree than Cahill did when we bought him. He has about 20 caps for Germany, which is no mean feat, we're buying him off a big club, and he has CL experience. This augurs well for the future if you ask me and makes this a sensible signing even though I acknowledge football isn't an exact science.

Whichever position Conte plans on playing Rudiger he obviously thinks he will strengthen us, and given his track record and the fact he knows the Italian league inside out, he's in a good position to judge. Personally I think Rudiger will play as a CB rather than a WB although obviously he provides cover in the WB positions. Conte knows the way he wants to play and if he thinks Rudiger fits the bill then like you I think everybody should be happy. He may not be the name everybody wanted, he may not have been top of Conte's wish list, we don't know, but we do know we're getting a pretty good player who will undoubtedly get better and who will in all likelihood make us harder to score against.

If he comes I think the club have done well to secure his services. Sometimes you have to be decisive and you have to act fast. That's what the club have done in this case.

 
Davey Baby said:
I don't watch Roma play, all I know is they came second last year in Serie A and Rudiger was always selected when available, and this after coming back from injury.

I've seen it said many times in this thread he's not really an upgrade on Cahill, which may or may not be true the way things stand, I couldn't comment. It's all just opinions anyway and as I've said, I don't really watch Roma play.

What I do know is Cahill was 2 years older when he signed for us, he had the same amount of club games under his belt (around 200) but those had been largely at a lower level, with Burnley, Villa, Sheffield Utd and Bolton. He had been released at Villa because Martin O'Neill didn't rate him. He had already played for England by the time we'd signed him and we got him for a cut-price deal because he only had 6 months remaining on his contract. Having said that, we didn't have to compete with any other big clubs for his signature and we bought him mainly through necessity rather than design. He came in the January transfer window if I remember rightly.

Now, Cahill has been a good signing for us, we definitely got his best years, he's won the lot and he's got more than 50 caps for England. He may not be a Terry or Ferdinand but he's a good player and he's been an asset for us, although I'm not arguing that there are better out there.

Looking at everything you have to say Rudiger's ceiling is far higher, so those comparing him unfavourably with Cahill need to consider we're buying him at a younger age than we bought Cahill and he has far more pedigree than Cahill did when we bought him. He has about 20 caps for Germany, which is no mean feat, we're buying him off a big club, and he has CL experience. This augurs well for the future if you ask me and makes this a sensible signing even though I acknowledge football isn't an exact science.

Whichever position Conte plans on playing Rudiger he obviously thinks he will strengthen us, and given his track record and the fact he knows the Italian league inside out, he's in a good position to judge. Personally I think Rudiger will play as a CB rather than a WB although obviously he provides cover in the WB positions. Conte knows the way he wants to play and if he thinks Rudiger fits the bill then like you I think everybody should be happy. He may not be the name everybody wanted, he may not have been top of Conte's wish list, we don't know, but we do know we're getting a pretty good player who will undoubtedly get better and who will in all likelihood make us harder to score against.

If he comes I think the club have done well to secure his services. Sometimes you have to be decisive and you have to act fast. That's what the club have done in this case.
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It's a shame this signing was delayed by an ACL injury but we got Luiz out of it so ws're even stronger at the back now possibly

 
Reports coming out of Italy suggesting it's an initial €33 million, potentially rising to €38 million with add-ons. Sensible.

 
Charles Ryder said:
Reports coming out of Italy suggesting it's an initial €33 million, potentially rising to €38 million with add-ons. Sensible.
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Solid, versatile player, my only concern was coming back from injury, and frankly, I forgot all about him during this pat season.

 
Feels like the news are saying something is going to happen today or tomorrow or next Monday.

Some guy said a huge breakthrough was expected in Sandro talks yesterday and we've heard f*ck all.

 
dansubrosa said:
Feels like the news are saying something is going to happen today or tomorrow or next Monday.

Some guy said a huge breakthrough was expected in Sandro talks yesterday and we've heard f*ck all.
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It's because they are guessing. Eventually they will get it right and then people forget all of the other times they get it wrong. If you keep making up the same story every few days, you are going to get one right eventually.

 
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Imran_CFC said:
Some serious under estimation of Rudiger going on in this thread.
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He looks pretty good to me. Young, athletic, smart. tackles well, passes well, scores. Who does he replace? Well, I reckon he could even play in front of the back three. It's all a lottery in the end but he looks a good bet. A good buy!

 
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