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Antonio Rudiger

Matt Law reporting the same:

Shame it didn't work out but never convinced me he was good enough. He was decent for two season but unfortunately horrible for his last.
Let's hope we can get a good fee.


 
rtwelch said:
Chelsea playing a dangerous game especially as he helped get Werner & Havertz in but let’s be realistic Rudi & AC will be gone sooner rather than later. 
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Interesting to see how these players react as he's close to Werner definitely 

 
I think this is quite a dangerous thing to do. Havertz and especially Werner have repeatedly stated how important he was in the decision to come here and how much he is helping them getting acclimatized in London. Might dent their morale quite a bit to see him getting left out like this immediately after they arrived.

I think it would have been better to keep him as one of our 4 options for this season. He was a very good centre back under Conte and Sarri and it's not like we're getting an offer for him we can't refuse. He's also reportedly one of the most influential and well liked players in the dressing room and one of the few vocal leader type players we have in our squad. I also think Tomori would be better of getting regular game time on loan instead of being our CB #4.

I hope Lamps knows what he's doing here.

 
True Blue23 said:
I think this is quite a dangerous thing to do. Havertz and especially Werner have repeatedly stated how important he was in the decision to come here and how much he is helping them getting acclimatized in London. Might dent their morale quite a bit to see him getting left out like this immediately after they arrived.

I think it would have been better to keep him as one of our 4 options for this season. He was a very good centre back under Conte and Sarri and it's not like we're getting an offer for him we can't refuse. He's also reportedly one of the most influential and well liked players in the dressing room and one of the few vocal leader type players we have in our squad. I also think Tomori would be better of getting regular game time on loan instead of being our CB #4.

I hope Lamps knows what he's doing here.
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Neither of them have said once that rudiger was important to them joining. Let alone repeatedly. There is not a chance in hell this will dent their morale. 

The club may consider that it will be easier to sell rudiger and raise funds than any other defender. Lampard considers him sellable. We have 3 defenders he thinks are better. 

 
rtwelch said:
Chelsea playing a dangerous game especially as he helped get Werner & Havertz in but let’s be realistic Rudi & AC will be gone sooner rather than later. 
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I don't know about Christensen. However, I did read on twitter that Fabrizio Romano was on a Chelsea podcast and mentioned that we are targeting Gimenez of Atletico Madrid next summer.

Also, not sure if related to the defence or other positions, but we will start looking towards South America for talent. 

 
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Am fairly sure they mention talking to rudi before joining and he helped them make their decision. 

Didn't Lampard tried something similar with Oli and had to backtrack left him out repeatedly thinking he wasn't important to the club I get a sense this could be a similar situation.

Also the disrespect some of our players get from our fans is disgraceful 

 
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bisright1 said:
Neither of them have said once that rudiger was important to them joining. Let alone repeatedly. There is not a chance in hell this will dent their morale. 

The club may consider that it will be easier to sell rudiger and raise funds than any other defender. Lampard considers him sellable. We have 3 defenders he thinks are better. 
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/09/19/timo-werner-antonio-rudiger-chelsea-transfer-13294195/amp/

Havertz said something similar iirc. So repeatedly might have been hyperbole but he definetly was involved in their decision making process. And Werner and Rüdiger are reported to be pretty close (they came through the Stuttgart Academy together).

 
bisright1 said:
Neither of them have said once that rudiger was important to them joining. Let alone repeatedly. There is not a chance in hell this will dent their morale. 

The club may consider that it will be easier to sell rudiger and raise funds than any other defender. Lampard considers him sellable. We have 3 defenders he thinks are better. 
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/19/timo-werner-antonio-rudiger-chelsea-transfer-13294195/ https://www.teamtalk.com/news/rudiger-werner-chelsea-move

Seen several articles like these. Make of them what you will 🙂

 
I can understand this decision. The club need to choose between keeping Tomori or Rudiger. Rudiger isn't better than Tomori. I also think Rudiger was the most experienced CB in the squad. Now we have Silva to bring the younger defenders along, it's time to cut ties with Rudiger. 

 
German Football Newspaper Kicker saying Barcelona are considering a move for Rudi.

Hope buy him instead of a loan so we can reinvest the money

 
jack_super_class said:
He was poor last season but hes still a better defender than Christensen. Christensen seems to never get criticised. The guy has never even scored a goal for us. Rudiger has shown more in 3 years at Chelsea than Christensen has. Maybe Rudiger injuries are catching up with him.
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You must be viewing different platforms to me.

I think AC is being persisted with because of his ceiling, and it's been forgotten about in the midst of the red card but he was excellent vs Brighton and vs Pool till that moment. 

 
Argo said:
You must be viewing different platforms to me.

I think AC is being persisted with because of his ceiling, and it's been forgotten about in the midst of the red card but he was excellent vs Brighton and vs Pool till that moment. 
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Yeah AC is routinely abused, including on here. 

I agree, think he's been fine the first two games and the red card could happen to anyone. 

 
bisright1 said:
Yes helped. But not key to why they are here and neither will lose sleep over rudiger going. It's a football club, people leave all the time. 
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Agrred players really aren't that sensitive, if they were Thiago Silva would have never come here to a play for a man that ruthlessly kicked his mate (Luiz) out of the club.

 
In the current squad, Zouma and Christensen are evidently ahead of Rüdiger. One would assume Silva is too - it's not the kind of signing you make so the guy can sit on the bench. Personally I would have Tomori ahead of him too, but it's not particularly clear what Frank's thinking is on him.

In addition to that, we have Guéhi and Malang Sarr (and maybe Clarke-Salter) coming back after this season. If Rüdiger wants proper playing time, and if Frank/the club feel we have a couple of bodies too many - out of the immediate saleable assets available he is probably the most obvious.

Or this could all be nonsense and the poor fellow just has a knock - who knows?

 
Looks like he is leaving. 
 

still think he is better than christensen and tomori currently 

 
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