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Antonio Rudiger

I'd love to remember the Arguments where we've Jousted for our Beliefs, def would of Backed Torres, lol

 
Ballack & Blu said:
I really hope your jokingly, i think he is up there with one of the worst players to wear our famous Blue, not as a defender as i stated, but someone to fundamentally as a professional footballer lack of the art of passing the ball in a forward direction, he totally slowed play down all the time, something i think Tuchel has quickly identified...
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Zouma is possibly the highest jumper i have ever seen play football, certainly up there with the best, and when he times his jumps right it's a majestic beauty to behold, i miss quality headed goals, for that reason alone he should be in front of Rudiger, they are similar defenders, but Zouma is unstoppable in the air sometimes.

 
coco said:
Zouma is possibly the highest jumper i have ever seen play football, certainly up there with the best, and when he times his jumps right it's a majestic beauty to behold, i miss quality headed goals, for that reason alone he should be in front of Rudiger, they are similar defenders, but Zouma is unstoppable in the air sometimes.
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What about Michael Jordan, allegedly he could fly😜

 
Ballack & Blu said:
What about Michael Jordan, allegedly he could fly😜
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wrong ball game 😅

 
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I don't quite understand the amount of hate Rüdiger gets on here, not only since his alleged role in Lampard's sacking but way before that. Yes he was sh*te last season, but so were Zouma and Christensen. And in the two seasons before that he looked like a really good defender. Also this season he has been pretty good whenever he got the chance to play under Lamps, and under Tuchel he has was faultless apart from his comical own goal, but these things can happen. He's part of a defence that has conceded one goal in the last 5 league games and people still moan in the match day threads whenever he's in the starting line up.

I'm not saying the guy is world class or anything and if we get the chance to upgrade on him, I would go for it. But I believe he gets a disptoportionate amount of stick from Chelsea fans, and that he is currently in the team on merit.

 
A lot of noise have been around Rudiger since the beginning of the season. I was supporting Lampard's choice to play Silva and Zouma together, they were looking good and when Rudiger had his games he wasn't better. All this rumors about him wanting Lampard to leave and destroying the dressing room, a lot of things around him.

I think since Tuchel arrived and put the faith on him, he definitely pays him back with his performances. He's looking good, he might make one mistake in a game but then recover it immediately. 

He's aggressive and has passion in him, he's there to fight for the team and especially yesterday. Every time Suarez came on him, Rudiger won 90% of the situations except one.

He became much better defender and after all I'm happy to have him in a good form. I believe he deserves some credit.

 
True Blue23 said:
I don't quite understand the amount of hate Rüdiger gets on here, not only since his alleged role in Lampard's sacking but way before that. Yes he was sh*te last season, but so were Zouma and Christensen. And in the two seasons before that he looked like a really good defender. Also this season he has been pretty good whenever he got the chance to play under Lamps, and under Tuchel he has was faultless apart from his comical own goal, but these things can happen. He's part of a defence that has conceded one goal in the last 5 league games and people still moan in the match day threads whenever he's in the starting line up.
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That’s not strictly true though is it? Him and Alonso almost made a massive c**t of it against Atleti which let Suarez get in and square it to Lamar who IMO should have got on the end of it. If that goes in it’s a different game. 

It shows how important the end product of a mistake is to how people remember it. Christensen made a mistake against Barca that led to a goal about 4 years ago and it’s still talked about & used against him. Alonso & Rudiger look like the chuckle brothers a week ago and because it doesn’t result in a goal it’s forgotten about. 
 

He’s playing well at the moment & deserves his place, his cross field switch to Callum (I think?) for the ball he put across the face for Giroud was terrific. His professionalism has been questioned and when it’s a player who IMO is average, like Rudiger against a club legend like Lampard, there was only ever going to be one winner. That’s why I believe a lot of people turned against him.

 
EdinburghBlue said:
That’s not strictly true though is it? Him and Alonso almost made a massive c**t of it against Atleti which let Suarez get in and square it to Lamar who IMO should have got on the end of it. If that goes in it’s a different game. 

It shows how important the end product of a mistake is to how people remember it. Christensen made a mistake against Barca that led to a goal about 4 years ago and it’s still talked about & used against him. Alonso & Rudiger look like the chuckle brothers a week ago and because it doesn’t result in a goal it’s forgotten about. 
 

He’s playing well at the moment & deserves his place, his cross field switch to Callum (I think?) for the ball he put across the face for Giroud was terrific. His professionalism has been questioned and when it’s a player who IMO is average, like Rudiger against a club legend like Lampard, there was only ever going to be one winner. That’s why I believe a lot of people turned against him.
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Look at the date of my post... 

 
EdinburghBlue said:
That’s not strictly true though is it? Him and Alonso almost made a massive c**t of it against Atleti which let Suarez get in and square it to Lamar who IMO should have got on the end of it. If that goes in it’s a different game. 

It shows how important the end product of a mistake is to how people remember it. Christensen made a mistake against Barca that led to a goal about 4 years ago and it’s still talked about & used against him. Alonso & Rudiger look like the chuckle brothers a week ago and because it doesn’t result in a goal it’s forgotten about. 
 

He’s playing well at the moment & deserves his place, his cross field switch to Callum (I think?) for the ball he put across the face for Giroud was terrific. His professionalism has been questioned and when it’s a player who IMO is average, like Rudiger against a club legend like Lampard, there was only ever going to be one winner. That’s why I believe a lot of people turned against him.
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I agree with you. He is having good performances overall, and he’s doing what Jorginho should be doing, putting long balls to the attackers. But he has lapses of concentration every game. The one you mention I pointed out to in Alonso’s topic. But against ManU he and Chilwell, but mostly down to Rudiger, let the ball go out for a throw in by misunderstanding each other. It did not create a goal chance but similar to that other game (can’t remember who we were playing against) when he gave a stupid corner towards the end of the game and they scored from that corner. He needs to start being more focused or he’ll become the next David Luiz.

 
Happy Birthday to him, 28 years old today!  

Hopefully there’s a slightly belated present tomorrow,with a win at Anfield!😀
 

 
RMH said:
I agree with you. He is having good performances overall, and he’s doing what Jorginho should be doing, putting long balls to the attackers. But he has lapses of concentration every game. The one you mention I pointed out to in Alonso’s topic. But against ManU he and Chilwell, but mostly down to Rudiger, let the ball go out for a throw in by misunderstanding each other. It did not create a goal chance but similar to that other game (can’t remember who we were playing against) when he gave a stupid corner towards the end of the game and they scored from that corner. He needs to start being more focused or he’ll become the next David Luiz.
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Worryingly,  he seems to lose control when ‘other’ things happen and gets dangerously close to hands/fists in the face of an opponent - I’m thinking Suarez v Atletico and again on Sunday with McTominay v mancs.

Never mind the cho possible pen, rudi came just as close, imo ?

He had his hands in McTominay’s face, I’m surprised he didn’t fall down, others definitely would have - he may have been sticking up for a team mate, but there’s a squillion cameras watching and recording your every move -  it’s silly these days and especially in the penalty area !!!!

 
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