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ducavis said:
To play where at PSG exactly? He isn’t starting ahead of Kimpepe/Marquinhos. His direct competition will be his German compatriot Kehrer who they paid £33m for even if they switch to a back 3.

There are loads of quality defenders on a fraction of those wages in Europe. Bastoni, Gimenez, Pau Torres & Laporte are on less than £150k/w. The only reason a team will go that high is because he will be a freebie.
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Toni is a bit of a warrior and he seems to enjoy a fight. Only Gimenez is a bit similar in that way. 

 
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Got turned inside out for the goal.. but the only mistake from him I. Almost a year.. like his pace and hunger.. I think he is in the top 10 defenders in Europe today.. if he is demanding money yo secure a future for himself and his family then fair play.. there is more money we waste on so many worse off players who haven’t even kicked a ball for the club in essence.. 

football is a business too the owners are billionaires .. so are the decision makers.. so if rudi wants to make the most of a small career .. in which he is putting his body through hell by earning more money.. I bet almost everyone one of us would try to do the same in his place.. so I absolutely don’t grudge this… even JTs camp floated rumours about city to earn his last big contract.

 
ducavis said:
To play where at PSG exactly? He isn’t starting ahead of Kimpepe/Marquinhos. His direct competition will be his German compatriot Kehrer who they paid £33m for even if they switch to a back 3.

There are loads of quality defenders on a fraction of those wages in Europe. Bastoni, Gimenez, Pau Torres & Laporte are on less than £150k/w. The only reason a team will go that high is because he will be a freebie.
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Well Tuchel / Maria clearly disagree with you because he's supposedly just been offered an 11m Euro p.a. contract, which works out to be ~200k a week.  I think that's probably the fair market rate for him at the moment, I wouldn't pay more.  Sure you might find better bargains, but with much higher levels of uncertainty.  There's not much uncertainty left with Rudiger: we know what he can and cannot do in the Premier league. 

 
Don't think TT has anything to do with our contract offers.

So we offered him less than half what PSG did? 

 
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We continue to sit in a stalemate, Madrid will reportedly make an attempt to sign him in January. Now as far as I'm concerned I'm almost 100% certain we keep him for at least the whole season come the summer I assumed at some point we would reach some sort of compromise. 

Look he's essential to the way we play currently but, that doesn't mean we can't adapt if he leaves. He's one of the main reasons we can play 3atb so comfortably and perhaps we're he to leave next summer TT will be forced to play 4atb who knows. Every Cloud has a silver lining but, I still would like to retain him just not more than 200k a week we're not Arsenal....

 
In the eve of facing to lose Rudiger who do we replace him with if it happens?

For me he is in many ways irreplaceable at this form. Leadership, physicality, long ball passing, aerial prowess and general sh*thousery are his apparent strengths.

Kounde is not a direct replacement. I feel in the Prem you need height and strength in a long season. 

Ampadu is years off, Guéhi we already lost. Tomori is a possibility but not a direct replacement. Chalobah is the closest replacement that I can think of but he is years off Rudigers level. 

 
Losing him for free would be a big blow.

He's perfect for that LCB role and it would take quite the player to replace the man.

 
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Best defender in the league at the moment for me. 
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Thiago Silva is still number 1 for me. Defensively, the guy is on another level. Rudiger has been on fire this season though. It would be hard to find anybody better than him for the LCB role right now. It's going to be a massive blow if we can't get him to sign a new deal.

 
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Maybe he's playing for the contract but my word. On form right now, what a beast. 

 
22 goals conceded in 44 games since Tuchel took over, and Rudiger has started in 36 of those games.

I would really hope we are prioritising his contract extension over the signing of someone like Kounde. 

 
It's a funny old world. Up until 6 months ago if you had read this page the bloke was a liability, reckless, poor defensive decisions etc. etc. Now apparently we couldn't possibly let him go and should pay him 200k a week. 

I'm a Rudiger fan but to play devils advocate, is it possible that Tuchel's maybe this system suits him and that it could suit another player? 

 
Whatever the outcome, the defence needs some attention in coming years.
- Rudiger, as noted above.  Looks increasingly likely he leaves and big shoes for anyone to fill
- AC, hopefully signs a new contract
- Dave, granted he plays wing back often also, but legs won't go forever.  Assume Chalobah and buy back of Livramento could address this
- Silva, just a superb player, but age is not on his side

To me, we need 2 minimum, three likely defenders in coming years.  The system seems to benefit all to an extent.  Closely watching the progression of Mbuyamba and Colwill, and would expect Kounde or similar to come in. 

 
I would like to see de ligt join, very physical ruthless defender for his age, or that kid from leicester fofana I thought was really good before his injury 

 
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PhilH930 said:
Whatever the outcome, the defence needs some attention in coming years.
- Rudiger, as noted above.  Looks increasingly likely he leaves and big shoes for anyone to fill
- AC, hopefully signs a new contract
- Dave, granted he plays wing back often also, but legs won't go forever.  Assume Chalobah and buy back of Livramento could address this
- Silva, just a superb player, but age is not on his side

To me, we need 2 minimum, three likely defenders in coming years.  The system seems to benefit all to an extent.  Closely watching the progression of Mbuyamba and Colwill, and would expect Kounde or similar to come in. 
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The club were very keen on Kounde, I think we will be in for him again soon. Then I think Silva and Azpi could help us hold out for another season and we will see what's on the market.

 
sonic90 said:
The club were very keen on Kounde, I think we will be in for him again soon. Then I think Silva and Azpi could help us hold out for another season and we will see what's on the market.
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i am not sold on Kounde yet.. small for EPL IMO.. if brentford is to go by, if we dont have physical defenders teams will target us a lot.. To add to this AC as good as he has been isnt the best in the air.. which is very Rudi is absolutely critical and needs to be given a new contract..

 
This is what happens when you put a trust on your player and give him confidence. 

The system suits him very well, but with current form he will perform even as a RB or CB in two CB's.

He's unstoppable as a defender this season and it's great to see. I don't know what we are waiting for, we need him!

He's 28, let's say he can play his best until 32-33. Having a quality defender for the next 4-5 years.

 
Can't see us breaking the bank for him, so if he's getting a 300-400k deal elsewhere, good luck to him. More worried about the Christensen deal, it meant to be done but we are still waiting for the official news.

 
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