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DannyLB said:
Big jump going from the championship to champions league matches. I agree he’s one to watch but we’re not replacing Rudiger with a 19 year old with 30 professional matches. 
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James and Mount made that jump pretty well.

 
DannyLB said:
Big jump going from the championship to champions league matches. I agree he’s one to watch but we’re not replacing Rudiger with a 19 year old with 30 professional matches. 
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My thinking was that we could replace Christensen with Colwill and replace Rudi with a more experienced defender.

 
He has had 2 great seasons, preceded by mediocrity. He will certainly be missed as a character, leader and player - but frankly, if he doesnt want to play for us anymore, then good riddance.

Our defence has consistently struggled in a 4 over the last few years. Rudi is part of that problem. We should look at this as a fantastic opportunity to rebuild our defence in a way that CAN play in a 4, which will free up a player for further up the pitch.

 
axman2526 said:
We have Colwill. He is free. 
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He’s also a kid. As good as he might be in the future, he has yet to play any minutes in the Premier League. It’s unfair to pile expectations on him at this stage in his career, he needs to develop at a pace suitable to him.

 
ducavis said:
According to Matt Law; we matched his last demands by offering over £200k/w (ridiculous IMO), but his agent wanted a £10m signing  on fees, plus agent fees of around £10m, and a salary exceeding £200k/w?

So should the club have met these ridiculous demands? I say good riddance.
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A defender (who isn't the club captain) wanting more than Salah earns. Ridiculous. I'll take Kounde for less wages, a potential decade of service, and resale value thanks.

 
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Either way we need 2 new CBs imo and that includes getting Colwill back. Kounde looks to be one we’ll look at but who’d be the other? If we had a buy back clause for Guehi he would definitely be someone I’d look at but from what I’ve read we only have a first option to match a bid.

The other option which I really don’t think is a good idea, is looking at bringing in a RWB and keeping James at RCB. For me it seems a massive waste of James’ talent but Tuchel seems to like putting him there 

 
Well, at least we got his best years, at 29 I don’t see him becoming a Thiago Silva type who can keep it going till 40. He’s got a solid 3 years at Real Madrid and that’s if the climate and playing style suits him, we shall see. 

 
TT needs to sit down with Toni and AC and see of they want to play for us till the end of the season and remain committed too or want to protect themselves ahead of their moves.

If it is the latter just tell them to stay home, such attitudes would only further damage the camp.

 
What's the betting that if we sign Kounde he turns out to be a massive let down LOL.

I think I'd be trying to buy Guehi back in the first instance.

Quite like the idea down the tracks of a back line with Chalobah, Guehi and Colwill in it.

 
I'm not going to point fingers and I'm going to be positive about the situation because there's nothing we can do about it. Hopefully lessons will be learned from this whole dire situation, so much has gone wrong I wouldn't know where to start. 

I'm now distancing myself from any rumours regarding our players if they're gone I'll say bye at the end of the season til then they wear the shirt they fight for the badge in my mind. If they're not trying hard enough they get benched assuming TT thinks this way I would expect he does. 

Come the summer we will have an expensive rebuild on our hands. It's been coming for years and with new owners it's time to embrace the change. Complete shake up throughout the squad. Players can leave on a free others can get sold. We build around a core of players that clearly are talented and we switch to a back 4 no more 5 defenders at the same time Chillwell and Reece are capable to do what they do at wb at fb if we have 2 solid cbs and a good dm to shield.

 
charierre said:
He’s also a kid. As good as he might be in the future, he has yet to play any minutes in the Premier League. It’s unfair to pile expectations on him at this stage in his career, he needs to develop at a pace suitable to him.
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Ofcourse but from everything I'm seeing and hearing about him he has teenage Varane vibes.

We shouldn't rely on him but I think a signing (Kounde) and his promotion will strike a good balance, especially If Azpi stays one more year and/or James at RCB happens more often.

 
Argo said:
Ofcourse but from everything I'm seeing and hearing about him he has teenage Varane vibes.

We shouldn't rely on him but I think a signing (Kounde) and his promotion will strike a good balance, especially If Azpi stays one more year and/or James at RCB happens more often.
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I have a feeling the days of 65mill on random defenders and huge money signings will be over. After Lukaku and Kepa cannot say that disappointments me.

We have an amazing academy. Just need our coach to believe in them and our fans to have patience with them and not expect them to be VVD or Salah right away.

Our cycle at the top is over for now imo. We need to rebuild and that will take time and patience.

 
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LongtimerLurker said:
I'm not going to point fingers and I'm going to be positive about the situation because there's nothing we can do about it. Hopefully lessons will be learned from this whole dire situation, so much has gone wrong I wouldn't know where to start. 

I'm now distancing myself from any rumours regarding our players if they're gone I'll say bye at the end of the season til then they wear the shirt they fight for the badge in my mind. If they're not trying hard enough they get benched assuming TT thinks this way I would expect he does. 

Come the summer we will have an expensive rebuild on our hands. It's been coming for years and with new owners it's time to embrace the change. Complete shake up throughout the squad. Players can leave on a free others can get sold. We build around a core of players that clearly are talented and we switch to a back 4 no more 5 defenders at the same time Chillwell and Reece are capable to do what they do at wb at fb if we have 2 solid cbs and a good dm to shield.
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Last time a player leaving left upset is Zola.

From there on in Robben and Hazard going to a bigger club or others deciding to go is simply fine by me. If you dont want to be here, leave. I shed no tears over Toni, AC or anyone else.

 
axman2526 said:
Last time a player leaving left upset is Zola.

From there on in Robben and Hazard going to a bigger club or others deciding to go is simply fine by me. If you dont want to be here, leave. I shed no tears over Toni, AC or anyone else.
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Pretty sure Mata wasn’t happy either

 
I think he meant ‘left me upset …’, not the player.  He just missed putting the word ‘me’ in his sentence.  Otherwise, the rest of his post makes no sense.

 
Phillip said:
I think he meant ‘left me upset …’, not the player.  He just missed putting the word ‘me’ in his sentence.  Otherwise, the rest of his post makes no sense.
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You are correct Sir. I did miss the me. 

Reports are Toni's last offer from the club was at 230k a week and with good signing on fee and agent fees, however Toni wanted more basic wage and 10mill signing on fee and 10mill for his agent, his brother. 

Happy the club did not bow to these demands if true. He is not worth that to keep.

 
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