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Carney Chukwuemeka

Romano says Carney has a £40 m release. Personally I hope noone pays it. On what I've seen and on the assumption he can stay fit he could be an outstanding player for Chelsea. However he hasn't played much and he hasn't been able to stay fit so my evidence is weak. 

When I compare his power and skill around the penalty area to say Enzo there just isn't any comparison.

 
Sconnie Blue said:
Important season for him. Reckon he’s going to be vital for us. 
 
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Exactly this. We’ve seen glimpses, and he scored two lovely goals last year. But we need to see 30+ appearances and a real impact on the side. 

 
He may not want to leave, but where is he going to get minutes? He's not getting in ahead of the 250m duo of Caicedo and Enzo. He's not getting in ahead of Palmer. He's a totally different profile/position to the Gallagher/Dewsbury-Hall type midfielder. Where's he going to play? We just keep stacking up player on top of player, with seemingly no real plan of how to use them.

 
Zeta said:
He may not want to leave, but where is he going to get minutes? He's not getting in ahead of the 250m duo of Caicedo and Enzo. He's not getting in ahead of Palmer. He's a totally different profile/position to the Gallagher/Dewsbury-Hall type midfielder. Where's he going to play? We just keep stacking up player on top of player, with seemingly no real plan of how to use them.
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Bear in mind next season involves midweek matches in North Eastern Lower Woop-Woop. We're going to need a squad.

 
Fantastic player but he's made of glass. I'd be tempted to sell if we got a bid of £30m.

 
Zeta said:
He may not want to leave, but where is he going to get minutes? He's not getting in ahead of the 250m duo of Caicedo and Enzo. He's not getting in ahead of Palmer. He's a totally different profile/position to the Gallagher/Dewsbury-Hall type midfielder. Where's he going to play? We just keep stacking up player on top of player, with seemingly no real plan of how to use them.
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It would show he's worth it if he can fight his way into the first team. Or at least being a squad player. 

dermott said:
Bear in mind next season involves midweek matches in North Eastern Lower Woop-Woop. We're going to need a squad.
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Is it really 80+ games...I don't recall where I saw that number but that's nuts right!?

Gordon Bennett said:
Fantastic player but he's made of glass. I'd be tempted to sell if we got a bid of £30m.
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One of my issues when ppl post about the players that are/were injured most of last season is I can't take it seriously that they are an "active" member of the squad for this coming season. If that makes any sense...sry i might not be explaining myself properly.

Him, lavia, fofana, etc...are they off the medical table yet? How long before they are back in to see the nurse? How many games will we get out of them? 

Stability was a big issue with us last season...between poch dabbling or misuse and the injuries, it was even harder for these kids to find Stability imho.

 
Simplymo said:
It would show he's worth it if he can fight his way into the first team. Or at least being a squad player. 

Is it really 80+ games...I don't recall where I saw that number but that's nuts right!?

One of my issues when ppl post about the players that are/were injured most of last season is I can't take it seriously that they are an "active" member of the squad for this coming season. If that makes any sense...sry i might not be explaining myself properly.

Him, lavia, fofana, etc...are they off the medical table yet? How long before they are back in to see the nurse? How many games will we get out of them? 

Stability was a big issue with us last season...between poch dabbling or misuse and the injuries, it was even harder for these kids to find Stability imho.
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Exactly. It's worth us remembering that Chukwuemeka hasn't started a match since August 2023...!

 
Gordon Bennett said:
Exactly. It's worth us remembering that Chukwuemeka hasn't started a match since August 2023...!
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Bloody hell...thats longer than I thought.

That's the thing...my brain can't accept any of these injured guys as part of the actual squad atm. So worrying about new signings replacing them or stopping them from developing is mute for me, imho.

And I can't genuinely say he's better than him, or him or him, etc. Sometimes our minds play tricks and we remember them better or worse,  and sometimes the players are actually not the same after an injury.

Until ppl actually play and we can compare them properly, I will have to just watch my hope/trust in the SDs hands.

 
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Gordon Bennett said:
Fantastic player but he's made of glass. I'd be tempted to sell if we got a bid of £30m.
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Is he though? He's had a bad injury but then so has Lavia, so has James, so has Fofana.  For the most part the exact nature of the injuries is closely guarded secrets because it so directly affects the value of the player. He may have a semi permanent long term injury, but he may also turn up and be fully fit all season.

 
ozboy said:
Is he though? He's had a bad injury but then so has Lavia, so has James, so has Fofana.  For the most part the exact nature of the injuries is closely guarded secrets because it so directly affects the value of the player. He may have a semi permanent long term injury, but he may also turn up and be fully fit all season.
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James and Fofana are also made of glass.

 
Zeta said:
He may not want to leave, but where is he going to get minutes? He's not getting in ahead of the 250m duo of Caicedo and Enzo. He's not getting in ahead of Palmer. He's a totally different profile/position to the Gallagher/Dewsbury-Hall type midfielder. Where's he going to play? We just keep stacking up player on top of player, with seemingly no real plan of how to use them.
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It's interesting to pick a starting 11.  Stupidly assuming everyone  is fit and playing a 4 3 3 because that is the system I like then I'm going with 

Petrovic

James(could pick gusto) fofana Colwill cucu

caicedo enzo Carney

Palmer Jackson Nkunku

A more conservative midfield 3 might be

Caicedo Lavia Enzo 

However I don't like the conservative midfield because it won't score any goals. Mourinho made 4 3 3 so successful because he had Lampard. Enzo is a great player but not a consistent goal scorer or even that clever round the box. I like Carney to be the 8 that does the job of a 10 as well as midfield linking. 

You've still got Paez and Estevao coming a long a year behind, so there are a truckload of attacking midfielders competing for very few spots.

 
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Gordon Bennett said:
James and Fofana are also made of glass.
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Let's not forget Chilly please

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The thing that distinguishes Carney from most of the others I reckon is his physicality. All the attacking mids have brilliant touches and are good on the ball but Enzo has neither pace  nor power, he is a distributor, even Palmer has to rely on ball skills rather than pace or power. Nkunku is probably more similar to Palmer than anyone else on the team. Carney has a great touch but is maybe more athletic or so it seems to me. But hey he probably really is made of glass. I'd like to know what treatment the medical team has given him over the past year. 

 
ozboy said:
The thing that distinguishes Carney from most of the others I reckon is his physicality. All the attacking mids have brilliant touches and are good on the ball but Enzo has neither pace  nor power, he is a distributor, even Palmer has to rely on ball skills rather than pace or power. Nkunku is probably more similar to Palmer than anyone else on the team. Carney has a great touch but is maybe more athletic or so it seems to me. But hey he probably really is made of glass. I'd like to know what treatment the medical team has given him over the past year. 
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Being the ever cynic i did often wonder that with a squad depth of 30 odd players (had to knock down a changing room wall at Cobham apparently) it kind of worked for Poch and his team to "manage" the returns of these players. I am sure that there are some real cases out there but there were instances where it seemed to me too convenient for players to just disappear. Ugochukwu just disappeared for half a season. I never did find out what was wrong with him.

 
Zeta said:
He may not want to leave, but where is he going to get minutes? He's not getting in ahead of the 250m duo of Caicedo and Enzo. He's not getting in ahead of Palmer. He's a totally different profile/position to the Gallagher/Dewsbury-Hall type midfielder. Where's he going to play? We just keep stacking up player on top of player, with seemingly no real plan of how to use them.
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Challenges KDH in that role imo. the player that links the midfield and attack. I think KDH was signed because of his familiarity with the system (Jorginho v.2), but once the other players get up to speed i just don't see how he starts over Carney/Enzo/Caicedo/Lavia. 

 
ozboy said:
The thing that distinguishes Carney from most of the others I reckon is his physicality. All the attacking mids have brilliant touches and are good on the ball but Enzo has neither pace  nor power, he is a distributor, even Palmer has to rely on ball skills rather than pace or power. Nkunku is probably more similar to Palmer than anyone else on the team. Carney has a great touch but is maybe more athletic or so it seems to me. But hey he probably really is made of glass. I'd like to know what treatment the medical team has given him over the past year. 
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I have always rated Carney. Right from the off. Tremendous touch and control in tight areas. Plus, as you say @ozboy, his physical presence. Get him fit he could be a monster.

It would be insane to sell him or throw him in as part of a swap deal.

 
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I have always rated Carney. Right from the off. Tremendous touch and control in tight areas. Plus, as you say @ozboy, his physical presence. Get him fit he could be a monster.

It would be insane to sell him or throw him in as part of a swap deal.
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Same. He looked impressive in the pre-season and at the start of the season. If he hadn't been injured, he probably would have become a nailed on starter. I sincerely hope he won't be sold, and when fit our new manager  - whose name keeps escaping me, what a sign of past experiences - will see a place for him in our starting XI.

 
Is he injured? Not even on the bench last night I believe.

Incredible given the talent this kid has. There are two young players we should absolutely be investing in IMO. Carney and Noni.

 
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