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David Luiz back at Chelsea

sonic90 said:
Seen a lot of guesswork so far, I really don't want to dislike Luiz. I await Lamps press conference and Luiz's interview about the transfer.
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Not sure what you’ll be expecting to be revealed but it won’t be the nitty gritty, expect some diplomatic PC explanation, especially from Frank.

 
Crem said:
Same here.

A lot of accusations being made that , somehow, Luiz engineered this move. A far more likely scenario is Frank has told him first team opportunities will be limited this season and he could move on if he wanted to. Luiz, being a footballer who , well, likes playing football, saw his only chance was a move away. His family are settled in London so his choices were limited. Added to this, at the end of the day it is Marina who is selling him to a rival.

It’s odd how we expect footballers to be different than any other professions. If anyone here was told their chances of career progression in the company they work for were limited and they had ambition, they would move away and wouldn’t go a smaller company if one of the same size and stature offered them a job.
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Good points.

 
He told Arsenal.com: "All my life, I’ve always started the season with the goal to win things.

"It’s not going to be different here - I’m going to come with this mentality because this is what made me move here."

So he moved to win trophies...... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... Oh man that's quality comedy. Good old David, he's a funny guy. 

 
Davey Baby said:
Do I think less of Luiz? Yes I do. He could have stayed, he could have supported the manager, he could have tried to impress, he could have fought for his place, he could have mentored the younger players, he could have been a good example, but it was all about him. Going to one of our rivals in these circumstances tells us a lot. I liked Luiz, I thought the positives outweighed the negatives, he's a big personality he's talented and he's a winner. Furthermore, I'm unconvinced by Christensen and the jury is very much out on Zouma and Tomori, but we'll never know if they don't get games, and at least now they're going to play, and that has me very excited.
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DB talking sense as always....

 
I wouldn't say he's dead to me, still have some fond memories of him as recent as the Europa league final. However, he's an @sshole to leave the club like that, if he wanted to move to Arsenal in the first place, should have turned down the contract offer and walked off. Even few weeks ago he'd talked about he's excited about the new season and manager, it's all BS.  Whatever happened or didn't happen in the dressing room should be kept as a secret, we don't need a Chelsea headline of that kind. He's never convinced me as  a leader in the defence, so I expect a backline of Luiz and Mustafi will have plenty of fun, for the opposition attackers.

 
Anyone that isn't fond of the memories David Luiz has left at this club, they aren't Chelsea, they're Liverpool, Bayern, Spuds.......but not Chelsea.

So long David.

 
I mean..come on, he's a poor defender, we all know it, and we just offloaded him to Arse. I think its funny and in no way am i offended.

 
According to Frank it was his decision for Luiz to sit out training this week. He uses the words 'honest discussions' a few times to describe what took place, but it's pretty clear that once Luiz was told there would be competition for his spot and he was no longer guaranteed a starting place in the team he chose to leave rather that stay and fight.

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/chelsea-tv/press-conference

 
Good luck David, you gave me plenty of entertainment. A great personality with young supporters especially.

 
You can love David Luiz and everything he did for us over the years, and you can also be really annoyed at him over the manner of his departure. They're not mutually exclusive.

I'm not overly bothered about seeing him in an Arsenal shirt because I watch them (as in full 90 mins) about twice a season, funnily enough, depending on cup draws. The bit that stings is him trashing his own legacy, which nessecarily is forever cast in a different light due to the manner and destination of his exit. It doesn't cancel out Munich or Baku, that much is obvious. But it's just different now, and that's a bit sad.

For me it's not about loyalty or any similar silly notions, we're all adults here and at the end of the day it's a business. David Luiz has to look out for himself, if he did a cruciate in April Marina wouldn't have given him a contract in May for example. It absolutely cuts both ways, we've had plenty of examples of the club not doing right by various players and their best interests over the years (turning Drinkwater into an utter non-entity being one random recent example). It's just the nature of the business. 

But in saying that, we all get drawn in by certain players who seem to 'get' the club to a greater extent than the norm. It's a very visceral thing. Sideshow Bob absolutely had been one of those players over the years. His character just meshed really well, how many other players could you imagine sodding off to PSG and then being welcomed back with open arms. In the fullness of time we'll learn the real reasons for his departure, not the bullsh*t Arsenal generic PR lines or our own 5th Stand app Pravda stuff.

Time and age dictate that he'll never be retrospectively remembered as an Arsenal player, his career will always be most defined by his time with us. Eventually in a few years with water under the bridge and the sting taken out, I honestly don't think we're going to be sitting here coating him off as some sort of Judas. He won't be persona non grata or anything silly like that. It will just be a bit different. A bit tarnished. Not quite the easy, comfortable story with a happy ending that we'd have all liked it to be. 

David Luiz wasn't quite as Chelsea as we thought he was. Not quite the carefree, affable geezer persona. Couldn't quite depart gracefully and conveniently in a manner which suited our own selfish wishes as fans. But that's fine. Few players can live up to all of those things, and it's rarely that simple. 

(Fear I've typed a load of twaddle here, but sod it, started and suddenly got a bit stream of consciousness, ended up with a longer post than I had intended)

 
fitz said:
According to Frank it was his decision for Luiz to sit out training this week. He uses the words 'honest discussions' a few times to describe what took place, but it's pretty clear that once Luiz was told there would be competition for his spot and he was no longer guaranteed a starting place in the team he chose to leave rather that stay and fight.

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/chelsea-tv/press-conference
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Heard it was all pretty amicable. As you mention, it was down to Frank, Luiz didn't refuse to train or anything like that.                                                                                      Frank wants to build a new, much youngeer team. At 32, Luiz is rightly not content being moved down to 3rd or 4th choice. Yes, he could have stayed and try to get his place back, but with much younger players in front of him he simply decided to leave. I personally don't see anything  to be upset or angry about. Players come and go, so onwards and upwards with the new team that is being built.

 
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