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nonotnowjim said:
How often do these wonderkids ever turn out to be the real deal?

I recall the likes of Ganso, Denilson (Arsenals version), Our own Kenedy, Kerrison, Kerlon (an ex champ manager favourit), Alex Teixeira,  Gabigol (was it barbosa?), Our own Lucas Piazon, Alipio, Lulinha...Not to mention our current batch (Washington, Angelo, Santos - who all struggled this year.... the list goes on and on....

For every 1 Neymar, there are 50 other flash in the pans.
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Apparently the club used to be criticized in Brazil during the Roman era as we were targeting players that Brazilians didn't rate in the slightest. 

I'm not going to pretend I am some expert on Estevao but he very much looks like to be in the same category as Rodrygo, Vinicius, Endrick, and Roque. Palmeiras manager even going as far as saying he's a bigger prospect than Endrick. 

 
Bob stark said:
I watched Palmer play for City in charity shield. He was playable. Noone expect him to do what he did but he was at least playable

Estevao looks too skinny to play in PL. 
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A player being too skinny to play in the Premier League is outdated by at least 20 years at this point.

Mahrez was very skinny. Bernardo Silva is one of the best players in the league and he is one of the lightest players.

Estevao is also still growing. It's very doubtful that he won't be at least another 5kg's heavier by the time the 2025-26 season starts.

 
Scott Harris said:
A player being too skinny to play in the Premier League is outdated by at least 20 years at this point.

Mahrez was very skinny. Bernardo Silva is one of the best players in the league and he is one of the lightest players.

Estevao is also still growing. It's very doubtful that he won't be at least another 5kg's heavier by the time the 2025-26 season starts.
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And that's just after a few Poch barbecues.

 
I’m sure he’s a very talented player but we don’t exactly have a great track record with Brazilian youths. 

 
With Palmer, we already seen his cameos with City, and he was very good. He played in 2 cup finals weeks before he joined us, so his ability is there to be seen. If KDB was injured during pre-season, he'd probably get a first team chance and stayed. A 16 year old Brazilian kid played a handful games is a completely different prospect and carries a high risk profile. He may turn out to be a really good player if he does all the right things on and off the field, but a lot could happen before he even comes to London. Like other said, for 50-60M you get a good winger between 23-25, ready to play next season and still has plenty of re-sale values in 4-5 years time.

 
icecoolguy22 said:
With Palmer, we already seen his cameos with City, and he was very good. He played in 2 cup finals weeks before he joined us, so his ability is there to be seen. If KDB was injured during pre-season, he'd probably get a first team chance and stayed. A 16 year old Brazilian kid played a handful games is a completely different prospect and carries a high risk profile. He may turn out to be a really good player if he does all the right things on and off the field, but a lot could happen before he even comes to London. Like other said, for 50-60M you get a good winger between 23-25, ready to play next season and still has plenty of re-sale values in 4-5 years time.
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There were loads of skepticism with Palmer's signing. Even you weren't convinced he was something we needed. 

 
Scott Harris said:
A player being too skinny to play in the Premier League is outdated by at least 20 years at this point.

Mahrez was very skinny. Bernardo Silva is one of the best players in the league and he is one of the lightest players.

Estevao is also still growing. It's very doubtful that he won't be at least another 5kg's heavier by the time the 2025-26 season starts.
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If we start comparing player to highest tier footballer than anything works. 

 
If Estevao is a business plan it is a risky one. However I think you need to go high risk high reward if you want to find players like Mbappe, Vini Jr, Cole Palmer.

 
evissy said:
If Estevao is a business plan it is a risky one. However I think you need to go high risk high reward if you want to find players like Mbappe, Vini Jr, Cole Palmer.
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No big pl team is signing this kind of player unless they are very cheap. Why bet for the like of Estevao when you can get Olise. 

Real can do this because they are already loaded and la liga is a much easier league. 

 
31 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

A decent analysis: 

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Well that is worrying. Instead of comparing him to Messi the bloke is telling us to compare him with United's Amad Diallo.....

Least Paez looks generational from those stats. 

 
nonotnowjim said:
How often do these wonderkids ever turn out to be the real deal?

I recall the likes of Ganso, Denilson (Arsenals version), Our own Kenedy, Kerrison, Kerlon (an ex champ manager favourit), Alex Teixeira,  Gabigol (was it barbosa?), Our own Lucas Piazon, Alipio, Lulinha...Not to mention our current batch (Washington, Angelo, Santos - who all struggled this year.... the list goes on and on....

For every 1 Neymar, there are 50 other flash in the pans.
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What a player Ganso was, supposed to be as good as Neymar. 

Injuries ruined him, didn't they?

 
Sconnie Blue said:
Well that is worrying. Instead of comparing him to Messi the bloke is telling us to compare him with United's Amad Diallo.....

Least Paez looks generational from those stats. 
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A bit sobering, isn’t it 😂 Doesn’t mean Estevao isn’t a fantastic talent though, just might have to adjust the expectations of his immediate impact a little

 
6 hours ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

A decent analysis: 

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I wouldn't read too much into it. The bloke who makes these videos is a Man U fan who gave Cole Palmer a rating of 73 and Rasmus Hojlund a rating of 80.

 
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