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Estêvão needs to start in the PL and CL games. No more protection, Maresca, you bald twat! Let Neto play the Cups.

 
i said it time and time again ESTEVAO needs to start all games if fit, just because he is 18 means nothing, he is the best winger at Chelsea and Maresca needs to stop this crap of protecting him, Bigger teams wanted him and they are sniffing around now, the last thing we want is Maresca to continue to bench him because Estevao will lose patience and will look to go, and if someone like Real Madrid offer 100+m in the summer the owners will look to sell for quick profit

 
i said it time and time again ESTEVAO needs to start all games if fit, just because he is 18 means nothing, he is the best winger at Chelsea and Maresca needs to stop this crap of protecting him, Bigger teams wanted him and they are sniffing around now, the last thing we want is Maresca to continue to bench him because Estevao will lose patience and will look to go, and if someone like Real Madrid offer 100+m in the summer the owners will look to sell for quick profit
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He certainly need to play a lot more but I wouldn't start him every game.

Along with Palmer he is far & away the player who will cause opponents problems and with Palmer out injured, Estevao should have been playing more. But sometimes, it's good to have such a gool option on the bench to bring on and change a game. Maresca's problems is that he never does it soon enough.

 
He certainly need to play a lot more but I wouldn't start him every game.

Along with Palmer he is far & away the player who will cause opponents problems and with Palmer out injured, Estevao should have been playing more. But sometimes, it's good to have such a gool option on the bench to bring on and change a game. Maresca's problems is that he never does it soon enough.
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Id revers how we usually use young players, play him in the important games, rest him in the Fa and League cup games, dead rubbers etc. He has to get game time in the Prem and CL, these are the games we will need him to show up in so he has to get more time to adjust to the pace and physicality, though I dont think he will have a problem with either thing.

 
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One look at Barca's handling of teenage players tells a story. The likes of Gavi, Pedri and Yamal all either out injured or carrying long-term issues after being flogged.

 
One look at Barca's handling of teenage players tells a story. The likes of Gavi, Pedri and Yamal all either out injured or carrying long-term issues after being flogged.
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Real Madrid have also had major problems with Endrick injuries. He can't get fit now.

Do we really want to risk this?

 
Real Madrid have also had major problems with Endrick injuries. He can't get fit now.

Do we really want to risk this?
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Endrick has played under 900 minutes for Madrid in over 2 years and only had two minor injuries, somehow i don't think they've been overplaying him...

 
Young players need regular playing time to develop and, if they're potential world class as Palmer and Estêvão, they need to be starters in PL and CL. By all means, substitute them when the game is already won, and don't play them regularly in the Cups, don't take them to the US/Asia for glorified friendlies, etc that's how you don't overplay them.

 
One look at Barca's handling of teenage players tells a story. The likes of Gavi, Pedri and Yamal all either out injured or carrying long-term issues after being flogged.
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I don't think anybody is saying Estevao should play every game, but he hasn't started a single league game for us since September. He has more minutes for Brazil in two games than he has for us in the league since August.

 
Real Madrid have also had major problems with Endrick injuries. He can't get fit now.

Do we really want to risk this?
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We usually have injuries all the time with players who haven't even played many games for us. . For sure we need to manage playing time , I don't know if a teenager needs special protection?

The constant rotation is infuriating, building relationships on the field between players is essential, not that it matters with our club because every transfer window will see another player churn..

Maresca better not take Burnley lightly or it's likely to be a long hard slog.

 
One look at Barca's handling of teenage players tells a story. The likes of Gavi, Pedri and Yamal all either out injured or carrying long-term issues after being flogged.
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It's a valid concern, we have only to look at Lavia to see what can happen when a young body is overtaxed at the top level. Pedri vs Cherki (both 22) vs Estêvão (18):

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I stand by what I said earlier that Estevao (and other young players) need to play less prior to age 20. They are in the highest bracket for injury risk and any serious injury at this stage to the knee or hamstring is likely to be career-defining. Estevao needs to be protected.

That said, I also think that he should start every game because for the good of all the young players in the team, we need to win games in the first half and see them out comfortably. Young players also need minutes and the only way this can be done safely is if they can 'coast' in games to an extent. Start Estevao, win the game in 60 minutes, sub him out.

I think in the longer-term that will be much safer for him and the whole team because right now, our teams are playing a full 90 on a knife-edge.

 
I stand by what I said earlier that Estevao (and other young players) need to play less prior to age 20. They are in the highest bracket for injury risk and any serious injury at this stage to the knee or hamstring is likely to be career-defining. Estevao needs to be protected.

That said, I also think that he should start every game because for the good of all the young players in the team, we need to win games in the first half and see them out comfortably. Young players also need minutes and the only way this can be done safely is if they can 'coast' in games to an extent. Start Estevao, win the game in 60 minutes, sub him out.

I think in the longer-term that will be much safer for him and the whole team because right now, our teams are playing a full 90 on a knife-edge.
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I agree but you could also argue the converse. Go full and win the game in 45-60 minutes, then bring Estevao when there is more space, the opposition are tired and declared with less opportunity for contact injuries and muscular injuries from full out physical exertion

 
I agree but you could also argue the converse. Go full and win the game in 45-60 minutes, then bring Estevao when there is more space, the opposition are tired and declared with less opportunity for contact injuries and muscular injuries from full out physical exertion
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Well said. I feel fans are just being impatient which is fair, but Maresca has been perfect in his handling. He has kind of gone under radar, taken the pressure off him and eased him in quietly.

John Terry who knows better as an ex-player and fan addressed this perfectly; "He's an absolute superstar. And what he's doing at the age he's at is absolutely incredible as well. What I like at the moment is that the manager [Maresca] is looking after him. I think the fans and a few of us will want to see a little but more game-time at times, but as a young kid you have to be broken into the team a little bit."

Maresca has been clear that the idea was to gently ease him in the first half of the season, and that he has been surprised by his quality.

 
I agree but you could also argue the converse. Go full and win the game in 45-60 minutes, then bring Estevao when there is more space, the opposition are tired and declared with less opportunity for contact injuries and muscular injuries from full out physical exertion
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Okay so lets meet in the middle. Bring him on after the rest of the team spend 70 minutes passing the ball mindlessly and our one fit DM has been doing the bulk of the defending by doing shuttle runs that while time.

I call this tactic Marescanaccio

 
Well said. I feel fans are just being impatient which is fair, but Maresca has been perfect in his handling. He has kind of gone under radar, taken the pressure off him and eased him in quietly.
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This is plainly not even true, he has barely played him and he has most definitely not gone under the radar, I honestly have no idea where you pulled that one from.

 
I agree but you could also argue the converse. Go full and win the game in 45-60 minutes, then bring Estevao when there is more space, the opposition are tired and declared with less opportunity for contact injuries and muscular injuries from full out physical exertion
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Not sure I see the value in that approach. For one thing, when have we ever won a game in 45-60 minutes, especially whilst leaving our best players on the bench. And bringing him on in a scenario where it’s 3-0 with twenty minutes left is little better than weekday training. Loads of subs leaving a hotch-potch team going through the motions. Even the idea of less injury risk is debatable. I imagine aome frustrated player already 3 goals down is just as likely to hack at Estevao when he runs past him, if not more so.

Anyway, I’m sure we’ll rest him and other star players for the Barcelona game and send out the reserves against Burnley, and expect them to roll over and die because we are CFCLDN!

 
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