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Estêvão

He's hardly played in the last few weeks.Apart from over 80 mins v Barca...... this.vvv

Came on 80th minute v Everton

Unused sub v Atalanta

Came on 77th min v Bournemouth

Taken off HT v Leeds

Taken off HT v Arsenal

Unused sub v Burnley

"The minor muscle injury" reason might just be a convenient cover explanation. ??

 
I would never want us to become like Real Madrid with the ridiculous player power that goes on there BUT after Palmers comments after the ECL Final and the way Estevao is being suffocated maybe it’s time someone did say something or were at risk of losing anyone who is even slightly entertaining.
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We've probably already seen the best of him !

 
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So refreshing to see this kid take on defenders and not do what Garnacho and Neto do - frustrate the f**k out of everyone.

He has it in abundance. Might not come off every time but he is making the opposition defenders work and giving them some nightmares. I'm all for managing youngsters but this kid HAS to start games more often than not rather than the dross that is starting ahead of him. Clear MOTM last night.

 
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So refreshing to see this kid take on defenders and not do what Garnacho and Neto do - frustrate the f**k out of everyone.

He has it in abundance. Might not come off every time but he is making the opposition defenders work and giving them some nightmares. I'm all for managing youngsters but this kid HAS to start games more often than not rather than the dross that is starting ahead of him. Clear MOTM last night.
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And running on fumes at the end.

 
Poor guy, only player with any appetite to be creative and direct yesterday. Of course, this will result in him being dropped next game as punishment.

 
Estevao left, Palmer right and...someone who is not Garnacho, Gittens, Neto or Enzo in the 10? Someone... ya know... at least competent.
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The problem there, is under this manager/system Palmer will be hugging the line and Gusto drifting into midfield...

 
He was good on the left, but in all honesty, I don't want that to become the norm. He was showing promising signs with his link up play with Palmer on the right.

 
He was good on the left, but in all honesty, I don't want that to become the norm. He was showing promising signs with his link up play with Palmer on the right.
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Just insane to throw him left after hes been brilliant all game, and when neto can play there....more evidence on just how dumb Maresca is.

 
Just insane to throw him left after hes been brilliant all game, and when neto can play there....more evidence on just how dumb Maresca is.
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I was gobsmacked by that actually. So was Estevao as well i think as he then drifted over to the right to show Neto what he should have been doing. The move of Neto to the left with Estevao on the right and Palmer in the 10, with Palmer and Estevao having licence to interchange as their relationship developed was a no brainer, but then Maresca is literally a no brainer.

 
Was it tactical that he was subbed at HT today or did he have a knock?

I know we looked a lot better in the second half, but frustrating to see Neto on the pitch doing very little rather than Estevao.

 
Was it tactical that he was subbed at HT today or did he have a knock?

I know we looked a lot better in the second half, but frustrating to see Neto on the pitch doing very little rather than Estevao.
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Definitely seemed tactical, he and Josh were struggling and Cherki kept drifting there for overloads. That's why they switched him and Neto before half-time.

 
Was it tactical that he was subbed at HT today or did he have a knock?

I know we looked a lot better in the second half, but frustrating to see Neto on the pitch doing very little rather than Estevao.
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They both had howlers today. Couldn't argue with either or both being hooked at half time. Think maybe Estevao was chosen over Neto because he offers nothing defensively but that's just guesswork.

 
What exactly do they aim to achieve by subbing him off every time? We keep hearing these players are young and need time, but the minute things are tough, they are hooked at half time. If it's not Estevao, it's Acheampong. What are they learning if they aren't allowed to complete a game of football when things are tough? That just destroys confidence and ruins chances of helping them grow. I didn't see United take off Ronaldo or Rooney at half time when they had games they struggled in in their first season.

It's always such a cowardly move to make. The blame constantly falls on the young players at this club when the established players are having a stinker. It's always been this way, long before Clear Lake arrived and it's main reason why we have struggled to create another Terry.

We could have had prime Hazard today and even he would have struggled in that first half with how sh*t we were at keeping hold of the ball.

 
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What exactly do they aim to achieve by subbing him off every time? We keep hearing these players are young and need time, but the minute things are tough, they are hooked at half time. If it's not Estevao, it's Acheampong. What are they learning if they aren't allowed to complete a game of football when things are tough? That just destroys confidence and ruins chances of helping them grow. I didn't see United take off Ronaldo or Rooney at half time when they had games they struggled in in their first season.

It's always such a cowardly move to make. The blame constantly falls on the young players at this club when the established players are having a stinker. It's always been this way, long before Clear Lake arrived and it's main reason why we have struggled to create another Terry.

We could have had prime Hazard today and even he would have struggled in that first half with how sh*t we were at keeping hold of the ball.
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There are a lot of circumstances where this would be valid but this was not one of them. We were struggling. Having Josh and Estevao on the same flank was a gamble. And then we started losing the midfield battle. Santos on was the right move, gave us a boost in midfield, and strengthened our flanks when Palmer switched.

Ronaldo and Rooney were playing for the best team in the league and surrounded by senior pros.

 
There are a lot of circumstances where this would be valid but this was not one of them. We were struggling. Having Josh and Estevao on the same flank was a gamble. And then we started losing the midfield battle. Santos on was the right move, gave us a boost in midfield, and strengthened our flanks when Palmer switched.

Ronaldo and Rooney were playing for the best team in the league and surrounded by senior pros.
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Ronaldo and Rooney weren't playing for the best team at the time. They were behind both us and Arsenal.

Also, what is that circumstance when it would be valid to complain about Estevao being subbed off? Because I see this excuse every time. It's always we're suffering because he is doing something wrong, when the reality is that we would have been just as sh*t in that first half no matter who we had there. The whole team had a Lukaku touch and kept passing it to City players. Even if Estevao wasn't on the pitch in the second half, our performance would have been just as sh*t. This is the problem, when we're sh*t collectively, it's always Estevao that is subbed off.

 
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