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yeah contradictory rumors to some degree.
He can only be in Brazil attempting a rehab if it's a partial tear, which does not match grade 4.
Regardless, just hope he thinks about his career as these injures can be very tricky to deal with. He's too young to be thinking about anything else.
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Surgery to re-attach then rehabilitation.
Nah, hamstring injuries are rarely career-ending for footballers. These days it is barely a concern for running sports.
Career-altering, for sure. He'll need to get surgery done and then commence a period of rest, recovery and rehabilitation. He'll also need to make a very big choice as to how seriously he is willing to take his future strength training, nutrition and rest/recovery protocols, because managing inflammation for the rest of his career is key to preventing reoccurring injuries.
Grade 4 is a complete detachment which is medically more severe, but can have a better long term prognosis than a grade 2 or 3. With the latter there is a huge temptation to get back too soon. The formation of scar tissue means the hamstrings are never quite as strong or as stable as they were, meaning everything connected - the thigh, back, knee and ankle - are at risk of chronic injury too. Modern medicine means a grade 4 can be cleanly surgically repaired and then it's just down to how seriously the athlete takes their rehab.
I just don't think that this club is the right environment for that right now. Firstly, there are no leaders and mentors. Secondly, the toxicity surrounding the club will amplify any doubts he has on his return. Every touch, every failed dribble will be scrutinised, not just by the media but by our own fans. He will be written off as a crock and a waste by 22. It's exactly what happened to Dembele at Barcelona. Saka was in a similar situation and only Arsenal's success has spared him from the glare of the spotlight.
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I'm not even thinking this short term, I'm talking about his 20s. Will he be another Neymar or Torres, or will he knuckle down and be a Dembele or Robben? The situation is even worse with Lamine Yamal and there are already serious doubts he has the attitude required to have a long career.
This kind of injury is unlikely to affect his speed if he does the work and makes the attitude changes required, but my question remains - who will guide him? Certainly no one in the current setup, and as you point out, Brazil will want him to favour the NTs interests over Chelsea.
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That's true too! It took Dembele and Robben years and a proper coach to manage their playing times to get over niggling issues. Torres lost all his speed.
It's not a big problem treatment-wise but like you said, proper management requires Estevao to either get a personal sports rehab guy or both club and country rehab specialists to properly look after him. Else he'd become another Saka with multiple niggling injuries that continually sap his speed.
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Torres was still fast, he just lost that explosiveness to bypass players with ease. That was the knock on effect towards his confidence.
Least we have Quenda coming in.
Least we have Quenda coming in.
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That was the weirdest thing about it for me. Completely lost his quickness and acceleration, but if he did hit top speed he was still one of the quicker players in the squad. With most knee injuries etc we see players lose their overall speed, rarely their quickness.
He was rushed back by both club and country, and he had another major groin injury after the WC. Carragher said something interesting recently where he said that many of the players and coaches spoke in hushed tones in training after the WC, because he did not seem as sharp. That was before the second groin injury. Then although he destroyed us in October that year with two goals out of nowhere and in a game Liverpool had no right to win, Carragher pointed out that while both goals were great finishes, they were taken from positions that pre-injury, he would have simply just blown by the defender and scored an easy finish instead.
That's exactly the scenario we need to avoid with Estevao, rushing him back too soon or putting pressure on him to return and perform.
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He was one of the players I was looking forward to watching the most, because he's been good for Brazil when he has played.
The amount of injuries we have makes a mockery of our over zealous medical department. Players get injured it’s a contact sport played at full speed(sometimes).
I feel for him, hope he makes a full recovery. This is one of the worst Brazil sides I’ve ever seen, he’ll miss the experience but they ain’t getting near the trophy but still a shame.
I feel for him, hope he makes a full recovery. This is one of the worst Brazil sides I’ve ever seen, he’ll miss the experience but they ain’t getting near the trophy but still a shame.
Quite a few of the players we have signed are on the young side still developing physically esp the ones around 18-19. Needless to day, they don't have quite a history of injuries or not -- early days in their careers.
Then we've got players who have a very long history of injuries, like Lavia and Fofana (did not stop us from signing them).
Agreed on the Brazil side. The midfield in particular with an ageing Casemiro and the ball-carrying Bruno G. is dire to watch.
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given our track record with hammies, double or triple that legnth.
