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“Chelsea’s Estêvão is a dream target for Liverpool, who made a loose inquiry to Chelseain past 24hrs but were told door is not open to exit; now weighing up move to test London club’s resolve.”

Fully expected this, and can see them trying again in Jan, and if we resist he will move in the summer.

 
“Chelsea’s Estêvão is a dream target for Liverpool, who made a loose inquiry to Chelseain past 24hrs but were told door is not open to exit; now weighing up move to test London club’s resolve.”

Fully expected this, and can see them trying again in Jan, and if we resist he will move in the summer.
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That is fair enough though.

It's a competitive sport and always has been. Until now his fitness, progress through strength training, and actual form hasn't warranted more game time. But chances will arise. Players shouldn't be playing through the pain barrier or getting overuse injuries. When his chance comes along it's up to him to grab it which will then keep him in the team. It's never been any other way.

I do have some concerns that the bulking up and strength training has slowed him up a bit and has affected that explosiveness and speed of thought that he had.

I also actually think that regardless of Estevao, Germany Quenda could actually be the next real thing. Nobody is talking about this kid yet, and he is yet to have a run out in his favoured position. I'm praying he hasn't also fallen foul of the Cobham injury curse.

 
150M should be the starting point of any conversation, until that number is mentioned the phone isn’t answered. Simple.

 
I don’t get why people are worried about his game time, far better him being used sparingly this season than him being expected to win us matches like last.

This is how you develop a young talent like that, not with pressure and expectations. Allow him to come off the bench for 20-30min cameos playing against tired opponents.

We haven’t even gone behind in games yet who’s to say all 4 won’t play if we switch to a back 4.

Such a silly rumour.

 
I don’t get why people are worried about his game time, far better him being used sparingly this season than him being expected to win us matches like last.

This is how you develop a young talent like that, not with pressure and expectations. Allow him to come off the bench for 20-30min cameos playing against tired opponents.

We haven’t even gone behind in games yet who’s to say all 4 won’t play if we switch to a back 4.

Such a silly rumour.
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He isn’t seeing that though, and he isn’t going to get it under Alonso. Yesterday our forward 3 were dead on their feet after the 65th min and the press wasn’t really there. We needed someone to relieve the pressure and move the ball up the pitch, but he spent the 2nd half trying to undo the mess he created with the lineup/set up. Let’s be honest until he score in the 72min, Palmer was a prime candidate to be hooked.

He got 7mins v Fulham, those are the kind of mins he and other wingers are looking at this min. His next start will be v Leeds in the Cups if he is lucky without European football. Won’t be surprised if Ancelotti doesn’t bother calling him up for Brazil’s next internationals, which will speed up his exit.

 
He isn’t seeing that though, and he isn’t going to get it under Alonso. Yesterday our forward 3 were dead on their feet after the 65th min and the press wasn’t really there. We needed someone to relieve the pressure and move the ball up the pitch, but he spent the 2nd half trying to undo the mess he created with the lineup/set up. Let’s be honest until he score in the 72min, Palmer was a prime candidate to be hooked.

He got 7mins v Fulham, those are the kind of mins he and other wingers are looking at this min. His next start will be v Leeds in the Cups if he is lucky without European football. Won’t be surprised if Ancelotti doesn’t bother calling him up for Brazil’s next internationals, which will speed up his exit.
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The season started 1 week ago mate, he’s a 19yr old kid who’s coming back from injury I think it’s a bit premature to be demanding game time, especially how the front 3 have started.

If he wants to play top level European football he’s got to expect competition and rotation at any top club.

I think people look for problems when there aren’t any.

 
I’ve given this some serious thought and the only fair deal for Estevao would be Rio coming the other way.

Straight swap so they can all circle jerk over the PSR bo**ocks in the boardroom.

 
Have to think they’d reject any offer at this point unless it’s obscene money (150M). His value isn’t going to drop - and just needs time to regain match speed after the injury.

 
I’m not worried about Estevao at all. He’ll get plenty of game time and is genuine competition for Palmer and Rogers.

If he’s good enough he will play.

 
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He isn’t seeing that though, and he isn’t going to get it under Alonso. Yesterday our forward 3 were dead on their feet after the 65th min and the press wasn’t really there. We needed someone to relieve the pressure and move the ball up the pitch, but he spent the 2nd half trying to undo the mess he created with the lineup/set up. Let’s be honest until he score in the 72min, Palmer was a prime candidate to be hooked.

He got 7mins v Fulham, those are the kind of mins he and other wingers are looking at this min. His next start will be v Leeds in the Cups if he is lucky without European football. Won’t be surprised if Ancelotti doesn’t bother calling him up for Brazil’s next internationals, which will speed up his exit.
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This is needless doomerism. It's been three games and Estevao is coming off a major overuse injury. The world does not need yet another Christian Pulisic, Ansu Fati, Jadon Sancho etc who are mentally and physically busted before the age of 24.

For the sake of the team, Alonso also has to juggle between allowing players to build momentum, getting results, and getting players match-fit and ready to peak for the mid-season.

 
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