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Ethan Ampadu

Sexyfootball said:
Ricardo Carvalho was only 183cm and he wasn't too shabby ...  and Fabio Cannavaro and Bobby Moore, world cup winning centre backs, were only 175cm and 178cm respectively .... Carlos Puyol another at 178cm ... didn't stop him making the UEFA team of the year on multiple occasions. 
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Cannavaro and Puyol both played in the Latin leagues with shorter strikers (that is changing now).

Bobby Moore was back in the 60's and 70's - 5'10 was a good height then now I would say it is about 6'2 for a player.

Terry was 6'2.

Don't think we need both CBs to be 6'2 or above yet at least 1 and another in the team that can defend corners.

 
Scott Harris said:
I agree. I think he is too rash to play CB. Every time I seen him play for us, he would fly into tackles when I think it would have been wiser to stay on his feet.
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I disagree and actually think CB is where his elite potential is at, in CM he'd be a utility player at best, especially in a system like ours that requires players so be so technically on point even Kante is struggling.

 
I think that he could become a ball playing CB with more assured responsibilities than David Luiz

 
Is there any hope that he could be a solution at CB? Every time I've watched him, he seems very vocal and quick to direct teammates. I feel like we could use this in the back.  

 
edewaarb said:
Is there any hope that he could be a solution at CB? Every time I've watched him, he seems very vocal and quick to direct teammates. I feel like we could use this in the back.  
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I thought he was better as a DM than as a CB? I know he's versatile, but not sure where his best position is yet

 
I Think Frank should try and integrate him in the team this season, is Rice any better, just because he's established with the Spammers, he's always looked quality

 
Ampadu looking to go on loan to Fulham. Im okay with that as long as he gets the game time and doesn't rot away on the bench like so many of our past talented loan players. If he can get in 25-30 games in this season and perform well, that would be ideal.

 
driller97 said:
Ampadu looking to go on loan to Fulham. Im okay with that as long as he gets the game time and doesn't rot away on the bench like so many of our past talented loan players. If he can get in 25-30 games in this season and perform well, that would be ideal.
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Not bad, especially since he only got such a derisory amount of playing time for Leipzig last season

 
Ballack & Blu said:
Not bad, especially since he only got such a derisory amount of playing time for Leipzig last season
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Thats my problem with half of these loans, the player just goes there to sit on the bench and barely feature.. its such a waste when these are the key years into progressing their career.

Will be fuming if he goes to Fulham just to sit on the bench for another year, because he's an instant starter there

 
I've always liked the looks of Ampadu but like others, am still not sure what his best position is going to be long-term. Be unfortunate for him if he turns into one of these utility players as although they are handy to have as squad players, they end up neither one thing or another.

Lamps will have plenty of decisions to make with the signings coming in. Which youngsters stay and who gets loaned out. I would like to see both Ampadu and Gilmour stay but can see the argument for GOOD loan moves for one season.  

 
Nibs said:
I've always liked the looks of Ampadu but like others, am still not sure what his best position is going to be long-term. Be unfortunate for him if he turns into one of these utility players as although they are handy to have as squad players, they end up neither one thing or another.

Lamps will have plenty of decisions to make with the signings coming in. Which youngsters stay and who gets loaned out. I would like to see both Ampadu and Gilmour stay but can see the argument for GOOD loan moves for one season.  
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Loan moves are good, but it shows a certain lack of trust from the manager, Take Mason, or Reece, they were given their head in the first team, players of that age if they are loaned out now, will instantly think the Gaffer doesn't obviously think im as good as these two, how will he know, i'll only accept that if they consistently don't show the same aptitude in training

 
Let’s not try and compare Ampadu’s loan to Mount, Abraham, Tomori or James’ loan spells. Ampadu has played a total of 4 league games since he signed for Chelsea. The other 4 all got plenty of minutes in the Championship last season whilst Ampadu barely featured for RB Leipzig. 

If he does go to Fulham I’d like to think we’d put a clause in there that we can recall him in January if he hasn’t played x number of games. The fact we didn’t/couldn’t do that when he wasn’t featuring for Leipzig was madness. Hopefully we learn from that this time. He really needs minutes this season or his development will suffer. 

 
Ballack & Blu said:
Loan moves are good, but it shows a certain lack of trust from the manager, Take Mason, or Reece, they were given their head in the first team, players of that age if they are loaned out now, will instantly think the Gaffer doesn't obviously think im as good as these two, how will he know, i'll only accept that if they consistently don't show the same aptitude in training
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Exactly and why Lamps has some difficult decisions to make. It's one thing sending a youngster out on loan BEFORE they properly break into the first team but it will be hard to now send out any of those who played so many games for us this season. It would be pretty much saying "you only played 'cos we couldn't sign anyone - now we have better".

Trust Lamps to make the right calls but there'll be a fair bit of chin rubbing!!

 
Still not 100% convinced he is our future. For me he doesn't want to get involved and he lacks pace for the football Frank plays. Time will tell I guess. For next term I think the Fulham deal sounds good.

 
WhiteWall said:
Is he really that less of a talent than CHO
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For sure, he represents less talent. For starters who knows his best position? Take a look around at who would be clamoring for his services if he was on the chopping block. 

FWIW I think the club need to figure out which position they want to see him play before anything. This is one thing that Tomori was also dealing with. He's played so much CB and RB, he was neither 

 
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