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Ethan Ampadu

I've liked what I saw of Ethan in the past, I feel he reads the game well, and instructs those around him.  I don't, however, think he's a CB.  I think he's a DM so if he comes back he'd be fighting for a place in the team ahead of Billy Gilmour.

 
mad_mac said:
I've liked what I saw of Ethan in the past, I feel he reads the game well, and instructs those around him.  I don't, however, think he's a CB.  I think he's a DM so if he comes back he'd be fighting for a place in the team ahead of Billy Gilmour.
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I agree. DM for me and a great backup to Kante. As an aside, it's  amusing how quickly our fanbase moves on to the next flashy young thing. Guy had a tough loan spell at a team with arguably a better squad than us (certainly if measured by their CL results) and people are discarding him and saying he has no future. I think we'll find he'll be a much better play for 12 months under Nagelsmann and will be part of the squad next season, particularly if Rice doesn't join.

 
He's seeing an opening with our defensive issue's and us not looking like we'll be signing a CB.

And he's a CB not a CDM, that i have no doubt about.

 
Good, he could force his way alongside Kante or our backline. Is not had the displace any of our defenders.

 
Bonzodog29 said:
Same height as Ricky Carva, 
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Lord Percy was one of the best of his generation. He also had John Terry and Brana next to him and Petr Cech behind him. Safe to say we were okay in the air to cover him. 

At this point we can't win a header to save our lives and our keeper is 10cm too short too. Not sure you want to add a 183cm player into the mix. 

 
He's a quality youngster. Has really shone in all the games I've seen him play, for us, for Wales and in that game at Spuds when he was CB. Great strength and confidence on the ball, and excellent passing ability. Has huge potential, and I'm delighted we'll have him next season.

 
Height means absolutely nothing in modern football. We've got Zouma, Rudiger and Christensen which are 3 beats on paper(OK, Christensen is just tall) and how many goals did they score in total the last season? I remember two from Rudiger in a draw with Leicester and this should be it. 

Christensen has 0 goals and he's been around for a long time. Zouma's second period is drought as well. 

Boy, oh boy, these 3 are terrible. 

 
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Droopy said:
Height means absolutely nothing in modern football. We've got Zouma, Rudiger and Christensen which are 3 beats on paper(OK, Christensen is just tall) and how many goals did they score in total the last season? I remember two from Rudiger in a draw with Leicester and this should be it. 

Christensen has 0 goals and he's been around for a long time. Zouma's second period is drought as well. 

Boy, oh boy, these 3 are terrible. 
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I wouldn't go that far, it's still useful for certain positions but it's not as critical as it used to be.

I don't understand why you're using their low goals-scored stats as an argument for height not being important for centre backs. That is some strange logic.

 
There are plenty of CBs that are 6 foot flat like Sergio Ramos, Marquinhos, Thiago Silva..

Ampadu has played so few games in his career he's still mouldable, I've mostly seen him as a DM for us so can't speak for his ability as a CB.

 
Droopy said:
Height means absolutely nothing in modern football. We've got Zouma, Rudiger and Christensen which are 3 beats on paper(OK, Christensen is just tall) and how many goals did they score in total the last season? I remember two from Rudiger in a draw with Leicester and this should be it. 
Christensen has 0 goals and he's been around for a long time. Zouma's second period is drought as well. 
Boy, oh boy, these 3 are terrible. 
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It means something. In the Premier league at least. Most of the opponents can hurt you and many squads are built for size traditionally. Granted that is only part of defending. Frank publically said that himself so if he believes it it means Chelsea will address that problem.

If you don't have the size you need the personality. Our defenders lack of it. Someone like Christensen should just add some balls to his game. Thiago Silva who is linked to us is just over 1.80 but he really goes into players. He refuses to lose the battle. Zouma currently is valuable to us because of his size. Tammy is tall but he commands no one. He needs to bulk up a bit and really start battling opponents. We could use his height.
 
WhiteWall said:
But there are no other points of comparison. I cannot see any comparison between David Luis and Ampadu for good or bad characteristics.
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Apart from the very similar hairdos (which has now been chopped off) I think there are similarities.

Both can play in a defensive midfield position as well as centre half. Both of them have decent distribution.

I always liked what I saw of Ampadu. (Amps?) He looks confident on the ball and seems to have leadership qualities. Its something we need at the back right now. I question if its wise to use him for his leadership skills when he has just had a shocker of a season at Leipzig. Its a real shame but at 19 he can go out on loan again this season. I know he wants to be in the squad and I really want him to be a success at Chelsea but a successful season on loan at somewhere like Derby, Forrest of Brentford would be good for him. Leipzig didn't play him and it was a wasted season. He played a blinder against Spuds in the CL but that was it. 

Maybe he will really impress Frank in preseason but its a short one this year and we already have plenty of youth in the squad. Its a tough decision when we really need some tried and tested quality at the back.

 
Jesus he was never this big before was he? Bearing in mind that Giroud and Ruben are 6'4 and 6'3 I think, he doesn't look that far off them! Gained a bit of mass as well by the looks of things... Do we really need Declan Rice if we already have him?

It was always a concern (much like Gilmour) that he doesn't have the physical size to play his position as he'd just get overrun, but things look different now

 
driller97 said:
Jesus he was never this big before was he? Bearing in mind that Giroud and Ruben are 6'4 and 6'3 I think, he doesn't look that far off them! Gained a bit of mass as well by the looks of things... Do we really need Declan Rice if we already have him?

It was always a concern (much like Gilmour) that he doesn't have the physical size to play his position as he'd just get overrun, but things look different now
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He's actually a couple of inches shorter since he cut his hair.

 
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