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abramovich said:
I don't see how swapping Higuain for Morata, as long as it's a loan agreement till the end of the season, is a bad idea for Chelsea.
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Exactly... my concern with Higuain was that we would spend 50M+ on him, which would take away from building the rest of the squad. That's basically the deal Milan has. 18M loan fee this year with a 36M option to buy at the end of the season. 

If it's basically a straight swap with only wages being the increase in cost, I'm 100% for it.

 
abramovich said:
I don't see how swapping Higuain for Morata, as long as it's a loan agreement till the end of the season, is a bad idea for Chelsea.

Even if Higuain fails here, what do we have to lose? By now we know for a fact that Morata is a hopeless case, at least with Higuain we can try someone else and that's someone Sarri knows and worked with. If nothing good comes of it, he'll be gone at the end of the season anyway, so it's a win/win for me, given how terrible Morata has been.

I know Pipita's been struggling lately but given how difficult it is to sign players midseason, this is probably our best bet at potentially improving our situation upfront, even as a short term gap. I know people bitch and moan about the board and I do my share of it too, but sometimes things just don't work out the way we want. We don't want to sign older past-it players but buying young talent isn't a sure thing either (Morata, Batshuayi). There are no guarantees in this business, but at this point it almost seems, if Higuain comes in place of Morata and scores big fat zero all the way through May, we'd probably be in the exactly same position if we didn't do anything at all, so where's the downside.
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Good argument but I just want to ask your opinion then, shouldn't the club push for a long term signing while we still can convince Hazard that he should stay and most importantly while we still can really improve the squad for the Champions League spot?

I'm not sure if Higuain really has it in him to improve our team, 2 years ago I would have seen it but not in 2019.

 
Gol15 said:
Good argument but I just want to ask your opinion then, shouldn't the club push for a long term signing
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I think that's what we all want... but I don't believe many of us feel it's feasible in January

If you ask me do I want Fekir/Icardi/Higuain, then Higuain gets picked last in that group. Do I want Morata/Batshuayi/Giroud/Higuain, then I think Higuain is our best option for 6 months.

I've watched a couple of his games the last few weeks, he's significantly more mobile than what we have. Moreso over Giroud because of athleticism, and moreso over Morata because of work-rate.

He's not out of shape in the least right now.

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Skinnedy said:
I think that's what we all want... but I don't believe many of us feel it's feasible in January

If you ask me do I want Fekir/Icardi/Higuain, then Higuain gets picked last in that group. Do I want Morata/Batshuayi/Giroud/Higuain, then I think Higuain is our best option for 6 months.

I've watched a couple of his games the last few weeks, he's significantly more mobile than what we have. Moreso over Giroud because of athleticism, and moreso over Morata because of work-rate.

He's not out of shape in the least right now.

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I do think that Sarri would be putting all on Higuain to secure us the Champions League spot in that case, so it's the club gambling more than just a bit on the 31 year old and if he has what it takes for the Premier League.

It's giving him the trust and not someone else, I believe that the board really could find another solution giving that we could be in risk of missing out the top 4 again.

This is not costing transfer money and it's justified since Sarri worked with Higuain before, it looks like the least risky option but it might as well be a very costly one in the end of the season.

 
Gol15 said:
Good argument but I just want to ask your opinion then, shouldn't the club push for a long term signing while we still can convince Hazard that he should stay and most importantly while we still can really improve the squad for the Champions League spot?

I'm not sure if Higuain really has it in him to improve our team, 2 years ago I would have seen it but not in 2019.
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Should the club push for a long term signing of who, Higuain? I'm not sure signing someone like Higuain will play any part in whether Hazard decides to leave or stay, even if it helps us finish in the top four. In fact, I believe Eden's already decided to go to Madrid come summer. I'll be very happy to be proven wrong, but I just have that feeling. 

I share your concerns about Higuain in his current form, but like I said, given the timing and how desperate we are for a scorer, this is probably our best shot at potentially helping our attack.

 
abramovich said:
Should the club push for a long term signing of who, Higuain? I'm not sure signing someone like Higuain will play any part in whether Hazard decides to leave or stay, even if it helps us finish in the top four.
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Definitely not Higuain, a long term solution would be a real transfer, this with Higuain is trying to fix a problem with no money and thus taking a bigger risk but still claiming that there is an ambition.

 
A loan deal has to be the max.......otherwise heads need to roll. Imagine paying 50M on 31 Higuain.......am I wrong in saying he hasnt scored for months in seria a? Not exactly easier in epl.

 
Lets be honest. It is highly doubtful that any top quality strikers will be available in January.  They rarely are. We will almost certainly have to shop in the sale bins once again. A decent stop gap is probably the best we can hope for

 
Higuain doesn't sound inspiring due to his age, and his goal scoring record at Milan. Having said that Milan have been poor in general this season, and Higuain has worked very successfully with Sarri before. If Sarri sees him as the best option in the short term he would seem to be a reasonable target. Provided he can be brought in at a sensible price.

 
Strider6003 said:
Regardless of Higuaín / Morata swap, I think we will strengthen in another position too.
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Quite possible. Which position do you think? We already have a lot of competition for places in midfield. Unless we are planning to offload a player or 2.

 
As has been said on here, which "long term, top quality" striker is available in Jan ?, and if any are available, unfortunately we are not an elite club in the CL anymore which makes it very difficult.

 
I agree, Chelsea needs an offensive fullback.

About Higuain, I know he isn't young anymore, but he is world class and he's the perfect central striker for Sarri's teams. Obviously, Chelsea has to think for a younger one, but this could be a problem to fix next season. Now Chelsea needs him, not Icardi, who is a pure finisher, but he is an average player when he has to play with teamates.

 
Raff_Sarrista said:
I agree, Chelsea needs an offensive fullback.

About Higuain, I know he isn't young anymore, but he is world class and he's the perfect central striker for Sarri's teams. Obviously, Chelsea has to think for a younger one, but this could be a problem to fix next season. Now Chelsea needs him, not Icardi, who is a pure finisher, but he is an average player when he has to play with teamates.
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He certainly isn't.

 
I don't know what I could say, he stayed with us (Napoli) for three years and he was a phenomen, then he went to Mafia. Before Ronaldo, he was the best player of Serie A for everybody.

 
Raff_Sarrista said:
I don't know what I could say, he stayed with us (Napoli) for three years and he was a phenomen, then he went to Mafia. Before Ronaldo, he was the best player of Serie A for everybody.
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So do you think he could still make an impact in the right team and system? I realise AC Milan hasn't worked out well for him but they have been pretty awful in general this season.

 
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