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It would be so Chelsea so sign (ok loan) a forward who hasn’t scored in 12 games. We need him to hit the ground running not wait till he settles in 3-6mths.

 
ducavis said:
It would be so Chelsea so sign (ok loan) a forward who hasn’t scored in 12 games. We need him to hit the ground running not wait till he settles in 3-6mths.
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0 out of 12? Damn, I'd keep Morata based on that record, I have no doubt he's a better finisher than Morata, whether he's mobile and quick enough to get on those chances is yet to be seen. 6 months is acceptable given where we are, probably pay his full salary on top of loan fee, not a cheap loan by any means.

 
icecoolguy22 said:
0 out of 12? Damn, I'd keep Morata based on that record, I have no doubt he's a better finisher than Morata, whether he's mobile and quick enough to get on those chances is yet to be seen. 6 months is acceptable given where we are, probably pay his full salary on top of loan fee, not a cheap loan by any means.
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If he flops, I reckon Sarri would lose his job. Gabigol on loan at Santos from Inter is the top scorer in the Brazilian league; 18 goals in 34 games and only 22. He is waiting on a work permit to join West Ham  on an initial loan + £20m option. Worth a gamble IMO as Coutinho was rotting away in reserves for Inter before Liverpool took a punt on him for £8m. 

Anyone but Higuain for me.

 
ducavis said:
How is Milan negotiating a loan swap deal for a player they don’t own? Higuain hasn’t scored since Oct & Bakayoko is Milan’s best player; let that sink in.

This whole narrative you can’t sign a top player in January is strange. It doesn’t have to be a world class player, just find a No 9 on top 4. Piatek has 8 more league goals than Higuain in a worse team, and has scored 6 in his last 7 games. Makes way more sense than gambling on an aging forward who hasn’t scored in 2 months. Is he available? Yes & it doesn’t have to be a straight buy; a large loan fee upfront and an option to buy will get the deal done. Jovic & Werner are also attainable; their teams are not  likely to win the league. A £10m loan deal till the summer with? an option to buy for £30m-£40m in the summer will get the deal done. These 3 players are scoring constantly and offer great upside if they are a success. Liverpool are already linked with a bid for Werner in the summer. I just can’t wrap my head around why Milan will be swapping Higuain if he is any good for a dodgy Morata, when the former is less of a gamble as things stand and can fire them into Europe.
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Jovic is a no go. it is very complicated, Frankfurt have an option to buy him at the end of the season, so there's no chance they will cancel his loan from Benfica, when they can make a fortune in the summer. 

Piatek could be available, but as we've seen with Belotti, he could just be a one season wonder. 

Werner is an interesting one, but there is no way any team going agree to loaning out their star striker, with an option to buy. There is just no incentive for that deal to happen, £10m now to try and replace a player that is worth 5 times more than that. 

So there isn't a lot of attractive options in my opinion, even higuian on loan for 18 months will still cost us £27m, assuming we take up the same agreement Milan have with juve.

 
Ready Player One said:
I don't know if their finances can have changed that much in 4 months. 

They would have to be incredibly badly run to suddenly need rid. Which they may be. I don't know. 

If he signs, bump this in 6 months. See how many agree with you then. 
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It's not just how much they've changed or not changed.  That's their top 6 wage earners.  They're paying Higuain as much as their 2nd and 3rd highest paid players combined, and Donnarumma is someone they will make that money back when they sell him.


Player Name


Nationality


Position


Age


Yearly wages (€)


Contract running until


Gonzalo Higuain


Argentine


Forward


30


9,500,000


2019


Gianluigi Donnarumma


Italian


Goalkeeper


19


6,000,000


2021


Tiémoué Bakayoko


French


Midfielder


24


3,500,000


2019


Lucas Biglia


Argentine


Midfielder


32


3,500.000


2021


Alessio Romagnoli


Italian


Defender


23


3,500.000


2022


Suso


Spanish


Forward


24


3,000,000


2022

 
For those pointing out Higuain's goal scoring record this season, Dybala has scored 2 goals in 16 league games in a much superior team. Higuain has 5 in 14 games. Dzeko 2 in 14 games. Seems to be a tough season in Serie A this year.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
For those pointing out Higuain's goal scoring record this season, Dybala has scored 2 goals in 16 league games in a much superior team. Higuain has 5 in 14 games. Dzeko 2 in 14 games. Seems to be a tough season in Serie A this year.
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Correct me if I am wrong but Dybala is playing much deeper now with Mandzukic & Ronaldo leading the line. As for Dzeko; he is 32 and being phased out gradually for Schick. I would be wary of signing an aging player from a league that makes Bakayoko look like prime Viera. 

 
Wearyourblue said:
It's not just how much they've changed or not changed.  That's their top 6 wage earners.  They're paying Higuain as much as their 2nd and 3rd highest paid players combined
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So...what changed from when they signed him 4 months ago? 

You're saying they want to offload him for financial reasons. 4 months ago they thought they could afford him. What changed? 

Are they really badly run and didn't realise the impact that 4 months of his wages would do? Or is he not as good as they thought? 

I don't see another alternative and the former seems a bit unlikely unless Milan are run by absolute amateurs who can't plan 4 months in advance. 

 
Ready Player One said:
So...what changed from when they signed him 4 months ago? 

You're saying they want to offload him for financial reasons. 4 months ago they thought they could afford him. What changed? 

Are they really badly run and didn't realise the impact that 4 months of his wages would do? Or is he not as good as they thought? 

I don't see another alternative and the former seems a bit unlikely unless Milan are run by absolute amateurs who can't plan 4 months in advance. 
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Didn't there rich owner bail on them? 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
For those pointing out Higuain's goal scoring record this season, Dybala has scored 2 goals in 16 league games in a much superior team. Higuain has 5 in 14 games. Dzeko 2 in 14 games. Seems to be a tough season in Serie A this year.
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Morata has also 5 goals but in a few games less. Conclusion is that Chelsea doesn't need Higuain.

 
Ready Player One said:
So...what changed from when they signed him 4 months ago? 

You're saying they want to offload him for financial reasons. 4 months ago they thought they could afford him. What changed? 

Are they really badly run and didn't realise the impact that 4 months of his wages would do? Or is he not as good as they thought? 

I don't see another alternative and the former seems a bit unlikely unless Milan are run by absolute amateurs who can't plan 4 months in advance. 
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Don't they have a problem with FFP and they've been knocked out of Europa in the group stages.

 
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Osgood is Good said:
Don't they have a problem with FFP and they've been knocked out of Europa in the group stages.
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Yes they do. The problem with Milan is they need to sort their balance sheet before 2021, think they are €200m in the hole debt accrued from the former owner. They are owned by Elliott Management but the owners can’t fund their purchases even if they wanted to because of FFP

 
dkw said:
Didn't there rich owner bail on them? 
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I thought that was done and dusted well before they signed anyone this summer, but I could be wrong. 

Osgood is Good said:
Don't they have a problem with FFP and they've been knocked out of Europa in the group stages.
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Both those things are true, but I don't think they'd be looking to cut short a loan for those reasons if the player was looking good. 

 
Ready Player One said:
I thought that was done and dusted well before they signed anyone this summer, but I could be wrong. 

Both those things are true, but I don't think they'd be looking to cut short a loan for those reasons if the player was looking good. 
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There can be a big difference between looking good, and worth paying as much as your next two most expensive players combined.  As well if Bakayoko is doing well there, they are probably playing more of a counter style than build up.  Both Morata and Bakayoko aren't technical enough for us.  Sometimes we just need someone to keep their composure and finish one time.

 
Not overly keen on Higuian but our current attacking options are not sustainable. We are almost a one man team. Morata looks finished at the club now  

If Sarri thinks it could work then the club should back him as long as it’s a relatively low risk option. Otherwise the club are not helping the team or Sarri. 

 
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