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Ian Maatsen

Fixation on Maatsens build is borderline annoying, short players/defenders can make it in European football, they've just got to adapt their style to account for it. I'd argue if the lad did it for Burnley in the championship but couldn't in the prem, his height and strength isn't the problem. 

It's not even to say he's never going to make it either, he just simply isnt at the level needed right now in a postition where the club clearly feel we are currently covered and he isn't happy to wait.

 
He’s just not built for it, yes you have small defenders but they are the exception rather than the rule and he would have to be exceptional to be successful with his size at LB in the most physical league in the world.

If Colwill is getting bullied how on earth do some fans think Maatsen would cope better 😂

The match he started recently he got out muscled every time he had to duel for the ball.

 
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Gonoir Beniashile said:
What an awful back line this would have been. Not a decent defender among them. Average height less than 5ft 8in.

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All exceptional defenders, this is like comparing Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Artyon Senna and Sebastian Vettel to 4 average drivers🤣🤣 

The reaaaaaaach here is laughable. 
 

Listen I know we need some positive news but this a rather strange him to choose to fight on.

 
El regreso said:
All exceptional defenders, this is like comparing Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Artyon Senna and Sebastian Vettel to 4 average drivers🤣🤣 

The reaaaaaaach here is laughable. 
 

Listen I know we need some positive news but this a rather strange him to choose to fight on.
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Were all those defenders exceptional at 21 in their first season in a top league? 

R. Carlos was still in Brazil.

Baresi was in Serie B.

Cannavaro was in his first season starting for Napoli.

Lahm was still playing for Bayern Munich II.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Were all those defenders exceptional at 21 in their first season in a top league? 

R. Carlos was still in Brazil.

Baresi was in Serie B.

Cannavaro was in his first season starting for Napoli.

Lahm was still playing for Bayern Munich II.
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Maatsen has shown nothing to say he can reach those heights not even half those heights  

 
PloKoon13 said:
I think he has a very promising career ahead of him as a budget Patrick van Aanholt.
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Probably how it will turn out remains me of Josh Mceachran.

If it was Tino Livramento this fuss was about I could understand 

 
El regreso said:
All exceptional defenders, this is like comparing Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Artyon Senna and Sebastian Vettel to 4 average drivers🤣🤣
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It would only be like that if those 4 drivers shared a physical characteristic that people said would mean they wouldn't make it to the top in F1. Since nobody ever said then your analogy doesn't make any sense.

 
El regreso said:
Maatsen has shown nothing to say he can reach those heights not even half those heights  
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Did you watch a lot of 1980's Serie B games and work out Baresi was going to reach those heights back then?

Or even much of Bayern Munich II in the early 00's? I imagine Maatsen's Championship performances were more impressive than Lahm's appearances against some German kids.

 
This hilarious 🤣 what has this specific player has that everyone else can see but I can’t.

Top clubs aren’t lining up to buy him, he struggles in the matches he has played so far so what is it? 

 
El regreso said:
This hilarious 🤣 what has this specific player has that everyone else can see but I can’t.

Top clubs aren’t lining up to buy him, he struggles in the matches he has played so far so what is it? 
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You have the internet, you can watch his Burnley games and how he played in a progressive system.

Barca wanted him in October and he's just gone Dortmund, are they not top clubs now?

 
El regreso said:
This hilarious 🤣 what has this specific player has that everyone else can see but I can’t.

Top clubs aren’t lining up to buy him, he struggles in the matches he has played so far so what is it? 
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I think some people were saying he's too small / lightweight to play left back. I doubt very much he'll become the next Roberto Carlos but my point was you don't exactly have to be a colossus to play as a full back - but many are writing him off without ever giving him a chance. He's gone from left back at Burnley to left back at Dortmund via playing a few minutes here or there on our right wing. The fact we didn't even give him a chance in his natural position is baffling, especially given our injury crisis in that area.

 
El regreso said:
This hilarious 🤣 what has this specific player has that everyone else can see but I can’t.

Top clubs aren’t lining up to buy him, he struggles in the matches he has played so far so what is it? 
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We could have a young player that plays like Bakayoko while drunk and they'd still be the conspiracy he'll KDB us when we sell him.

 
Argo said:
We could have a young player that plays like Bakayoko while drunk and they'd still be the conspiracy he'll KDB us when we sell him.
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Mate it’s baffling, I can’t remember an academy player we didn’t transition to the first team that we have regretted selling.

KdB and Salah are players we bought so outside of those two all the academy players we sold have ended up exactly where I expected them to be.

 
El regreso said:
Mate it’s baffling, I can’t remember an academy player we didn’t transition to the first team that we have regretted selling.

KdB and Salah are players we bought so outside of those two all the academy players we sold have ended up exactly where I expected them to be.
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You also said Billy Gilmour was a Championship level player yet here he is playing in Europe. 

 
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