Ipswich Town vs Chelsea (PL) Monday 30th Dec 24 19:45 GMT
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And Guiu, but no, play Nkunku and Disasi out of position.
Didn't Poch get roasted on here for doing that with players often, like Colwill?
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Real shot in the arm for Ipswich, I bet they were beginning to wonder if they were better than Shamrock Rovers, FC Noah and Astana.
Now they know!
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As my late Dad used to say almost weekly, "Just when you think that Chelsea cannot let you down any further - they will surprise you "
Leicester fans too have been warning us that this would happen with Maresca. Have a look at what happened to them post Christmas, it is very worrying.
He has started playing players out of position, Disasi at RB is a f**king disaster, we miss Lavia badly, Colwill had a shocker as did Nkunku, whose mind seems elsewhere (Barcelona ??) The defence is just not good enough at the top level, Midfield got over-run last night and frankly, if Palmer has an off night, we offer very little. Ipswich wanted and needed it more than we did, Maresca, by telling everyone we are not title challengers, got the excuses for these three shocking results out there nice and early, so he must have seen a drop in levels at training. But, similar to his various predecessors, he doesn't not seem to have a Plan B or C that works.
Leicester fans too have been warning us that this would happen with Maresca. Have a look at what happened to them post Christmas, it is very worrying.
He has started playing players out of position, Disasi at RB is a f**king disaster, we miss Lavia badly, Colwill had a shocker as did Nkunku, whose mind seems elsewhere (Barcelona ??) The defence is just not good enough at the top level, Midfield got over-run last night and frankly, if Palmer has an off night, we offer very little. Ipswich wanted and needed it more than we did, Maresca, by telling everyone we are not title challengers, got the excuses for these three shocking results out there nice and early, so he must have seen a drop in levels at training. But, similar to his various predecessors, he doesn't not seem to have a Plan B or C that works.
Yep. Guiu should have been in.
If it was a 2-0 loss because we tried something different, I'd have stomached it better.
3 PL teams set up a low block and a mid block, suddenly we become toothless?
If we don't win the next 3 PL games, we're in crisis mode.
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That's a crazy thing to say. The keeper has to react. If he stays on his line and Delap passes the ball in, probably at his near post he gets hammered. It's so close to him and the goal line he doesn't have the opportunity to step out and make a big shape.
I am still not convinced there is contact.
This is still one of the weakest areas where VAR is failing. There has to be context drawn into these reviews. How can we have a situation whereby Tosin has a player in a bear hug from a corner and their appeals after the player falls to the ground is denied, yet the minimalist of contacts, if at all, results in the player pitching himself to the floor and a penalty is given. It's totally wrong.
The context is that Delap had virtually exhausted his move and was moving to an acute angle. We had players approaching the goal line behind the keeper. The keeper takes a position but doesn't initiate contact. The ball and Delap pass the keeper. If, a big if, there is minimal contact as Delap exits the challenge space and he embellished his fall rather than try to score.
No way can the keeper be blamed for his actions here, there was nothing reckless in his approach. If so, we need to rip up the coaching manuals and retrain all of the kids coming through.
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All successful sides have a swagger about them where flicks, round the corners and nutmegs come off. The speed of thought gives the opportunity for something creative that can often be the difference.
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This swagger, this confidence is derived from a foundation of hard work, rapid movement, energy and a tempo that bypasses opposition midfielders unwilling to track back and unnerves opposition defences pushing them into a cycle of poor decision making.
Playing players who kill the tempo of the game (Madueke, Tosin, Felix, Colwill, and Gusto when he came on) invites the opposition to reform into their tight shape and sucks all of the energy and tempo out of the game. You are then left with Madueke, Felix, Palmer, Nkunku, trying to thread ridiculous low percentage balls into non moving players, or trying the same flicks and nutmegs that now look infantile and stupid.
Throw in a clown like Disasi who shouldn't even be on the pitch and it's a recipe we have seen over and over again.
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This swagger, this confidence is derived from a foundation of hard work, rapid movement, energy and a tempo that bypasses opposition midfielders unwilling to track back and unnerves opposition defences pushing them into a cycle of poor decision making.
Playing players who kill the tempo of the game (Madueke, Tosin, Felix, Colwill, and Gusto when he came on) invites the opposition to reform into their tight shape and sucks all of the energy and tempo out of the game. You are then left with Madueke, Felix, Palmer, Nkunku, trying to thread ridiculous low percentage balls into non moving players, or trying the same flicks and nutmegs that now look infantile and stupid.
Throw in a clown like Disasi who shouldn't even be on the pitch and it's a recipe we have seen over and over again.
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What are you talking about? Have you actually watched it back again? It is a split second reaction from a fast rebound coming at him from an angle. N'kunku has thrown himself into the challenge with a defender in a bid to get a foot on it. He hasn't got time, he hasn't got balance, he hasn't got a free hit.
The Jackson miss in the second half was a million times worse. Ran offside and then missed a straightforward 1 on 1 with the keeper by some distance. That was the sitter, not the N'kunku effort. Jesus, I often wonder if you have played football yourself. Here, you can watch it again.
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Delap said he felt something but wasnt sure it was Jorgensen, he had already stumbled and was on his way down and tried to stay on his feet and then goes flying when the keeper gets close to him...it was a dive
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I'd agree. Nkunku was atrocious yesterday (and id argue wirse than any Jackson performance) but i don't blame it for that miss. It was an instinctive thing and you just have to hope with those.
Jackson's miss was far worse and I don't buy the claim that the offside flag saved his blushes.
Aim for the stringy stuff between the two white things Jacko!
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It's December, so we continue our proud tradition of being sh*t. On the upside: we usually start this early in November, and this season we didn't. Up the Chels!
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This is a bad run. Hopefully a blip. We are still the youngest and most inexperienced team in the league. It shows. The clock was ticking and all we got from the chelsea lads was petulance and theatrics. When they should have been playing with urgency and increased tempo. And pride.
it was never a penalty.
Delap to Chelsea in the summer if Ipswich get relegated? Delap has tenacity and will power. He knows how to read the game - he knows how to dive.
Would McKenna have been a better boss than Maresca?
it was never a penalty.
Delap to Chelsea in the summer if Ipswich get relegated? Delap has tenacity and will power. He knows how to read the game - he knows how to dive.
Would McKenna have been a better boss than Maresca?
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My point was that online rating systems are a ridiculous way to make a point. Especially as people apply bias on them based on their preconceived opinion.
I am basing my opinion on watching the games. Jackson has been terrible many many times. No disputing that. Nkunku hasn't had the chance to be that terrible on multiple occasions as he hasn't been selected. But when he was (against credible opposition, not the butcher, the Baker and the candlestick maker) he put in a performance equally as poor as any of Jackson's and, in my opinion, worse. Jackson misses far too many chances but at least tries to get into positions to get them. Nkunku walked around the pitch yesterday without the remotest interest in busting a gut.
Give me a new centre forward first and foremost but if that doesn't happen I'll take a misfiring Jackson over a strolling around Nkunku
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Is it not the same as the Sanchez challange on, whoever the United forward was, at OT?
Narrow the angle, stay big, only make the challange if you are sure you can get the ball.
He did not get the ball, he did (barley) touch the man, gives the ref every opportunity to give the pen.
Stays big Delap slips and the ball likely goes out for a goal kick.
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Nico missed a sitter as well, not using Nkunku missing one to defend him at all.
Nkunku is an instinctive finisher, like Costa was. A well treated, happy Nkunku scores that with no thought needed, no issue with a defender, he is that natural finisher. An unhappy, unfocused Nkunku, does not.
His overall display showed we have an unhappy, unfocused Nkunku.
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I agree that N'kunku is unhappy at how he has been used. He has a valid point IMO and certainly isn't the only who probably feels that way. But how he feels makes no difference to whether he finishes that rebound or not. There's no thought process involved. It was an instinctive, reactionary lunge to try and get a toe on it before the defender, which he managed. He certainly didn't have time and space to think about where to put it!