Is Madueke's laughter a breach of discipline?

Him laughing after the game is disgraceful and shows the current state of the club as others of mentioned however I don't think it warrants a fine. He should instead get a stern talking to and if his attitude doesn't change, drop him to the bench.

 
A bit extreme comparing it to North Korea.

It's a passionate sport. Surely you can see how bad it looks for a player to be laughing immediately after losing a semi final, especially when you see the complete opposite reaction from his teammate in front of him.

I think it's fair to question how much this all means to Madueke and whether we want that kind of thing at the club. 
There seems to be no real context but just interpreting things by knee-jerking since well, the camera was in a particular angle, is it even known what was said between Grealish and Madueke?

It really can be a question about what's seen as extreme and what's not, Madueke might not have seen T.Silva crying but just the back of his head, so maybe, just maybe T.Silva was hyper-aware that this might have been the last chance to play a final in English football and was crying from a very personal standpoint while at the same time Madueke saw that as just the start of something bigger than just reaching the semi-finals which would have also been from his own angle.

I won't be judging Madueke for talking and laughing after the final whistle because I don't know anything about him, it's not enough for me to assume that he couldn't care less about winning or losing since all I see is that he's not faking an emotion for the cameras and is responding to Grealish in a positive manner and I personally don't believe that such a behaviour alone should trigger any kind of a discussion about whether or not Madueke should be at the club, maybe the two are friends outside of the pitch, I don't know.

So I don't know what to say, in my own personal life, half a year ago I lost my grandmother, somehow prior to that I avoided going to funerals since every other grandparent died before I was born or when I was too little so as it happened the first funeral I went to was for one of my dearest family members that I have loved the most in my life and it wasn't easy to see other people acting in a way that I would personally describe as strange or odd but I am mature enough to know that everyone deals with sadness and with stuff in their own ways, it's not always so straight-forward to see how much something means to someone. 

 
Good topic. I think Sterling should be shot everytime he walks away smiling after he has missed another sitter, or ignored an easy pass to a teammate for a tap in.

Me, @Nibs and @Kev56 are volunteering to be in the firing squad. Nicolas Jackson could also be in it but he would probably miss.

 
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Grealish might have said " Jackson is a great striker, we want him at Citeh", and Madueke laughed in response .

What next ?

Fans showing disrespect for leaving in droves and not staying to applaud the team off ?

I hate it when fans desert their end of the stadium after a loss.

BUT I've done it enough times myself!

😜

 
There seems to be no real context but just interpreting things by knee-jerking since well, the camera was in a particular angle, is it even known what was said between Grealish and Madueke?

It really can be a question about what's seen as extreme and what's not, Madueke might not have seen T.Silva crying but just the back of his head, so maybe, just maybe T.Silva was hyper-aware that this might have been the last chance to play a final in English football and was crying from a very personal standpoint while at the same time Madueke saw that as just the start of something bigger than just reaching the semi-finals which would have also been from his own angle.

I won't be judging Madueke for talking and laughing after the final whistle because I don't know anything about him, it's not enough for me to assume that he couldn't care less about winning or losing since all I see is that he's not faking an emotion for the cameras and is responding to Grealish in a positive manner and I personally don't believe that such a behaviour alone should trigger any kind of a discussion about whether or not Madueke should be at the club, maybe the two are friends outside of the pitch, I don't know.

So I don't know what to say, in my own personal life, half a year ago I lost my grandmother, somehow prior to that I avoided going to funerals since every other grandparent died before I was born or when I was too little so as it happened the first funeral I went to was for one of my dearest family members that I have loved the most in my life and it wasn't easy to see other people acting in a way that I would personally describe as strange or odd but I am mature enough to know that everyone deals with sadness and with stuff in their own ways, it's not always so straight-forward to see how much something means to someone. 
Thank you for your thoughtful comment on this situation mate, and for sharing your personal experience.

 
Him laughing after the game is disgraceful and shows the current state of the club as others of mentioned however I don't think it warrants a fine. He should instead get a stern talking to and if his attitude doesn't change, drop him to the bench.
It’s the penalty incident that does it for me. He showed more emotion when Palmer took away his penalty in an already won match vs losing a cup semi final. Had that never happened I wouldn’t even be arsed.
 

I remember Essien laughing with Yaya Toure in 2012 after we lost at the Ethiad which guaranteed us not finishing in a Champions League place. Didn’t really mind it. 

 
On 21/04/2024 at 17:59, Gol15 said:

This has some North Korean vibes, are players forbidden to laugh after a loss?


. That made me laugh!

Whoops sorry ! 😜

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It’s the penalty incident that does it for me. He showed more emotion when Palmer took away his penalty in an already won match vs losing a cup semi final. Had that never happened I wouldn’t even be arsed.
 

I remember Essien laughing with Yaya Toure in 2012 after we lost at the Ethiad which guaranteed us not finishing in a Champions League place. Didn’t really mind it. 
Context, is of course everything.

Essien, who at that point was already pretty much done in the game, post-injury on a personal level, post-Munich on a club level; already proved himself years prior to the fans. 

 
Grealish might have said " Jackson is a great striker, we want him at Citeh", and Madueke laughed in response .

What next ?

Fans showing disrespect for leaving in droves and not staying to applaud the team off ?

I hate it when fans desert their end of the stadium after a loss.

BUT I've done it enough times myself!

😜
Top post. Whatever next! Are players who still wear long sleeves and gloves in April disrespecting the club and the fans? JT and Ivanovich wouldn't haven't those wet wipes anywhere near the starting lineup. Run around a bit more if you're feeling cold! Bloody snowflakes.

 
Context, is of course everything.

Essien, who at that point was already pretty much done in the game, post-injury on a personal level, post-Munich on a club level; already proved himself years prior to the fans. 
 I'll never forget the look on JT's face after the penalty miss in Moscow.

THAT was the look of a man who cared deeply about our club, he aged about 20 years in that moment, it was heart breaking to witness. He would have throttled any Chelsea player who joked and laughed with  United players at the end

( I'm hoping no one did otherwise this comment would look daft)

 
Top post. Whatever next! Are players who still wear long sleeves and gloves in April disrespecting the club and the fans? JT and Ivanovich wouldn't haven't those wet wipes anywhere near the starting lineup. Run around a bit more if you're feeling cold! Bloody snowflakes.
We're in danger of becoming the most easily offended fans in football.

After our terrific win at Villa , a fan called TalkSport to complain that Poch didn't go over and applaud him .And the other fans of course.

But in fact Poch waved away the cameras that were around him as he walked away  and directed them towards the payers celebrating in front of our fans indicating that they deserved the attention, not himself

I couldn't believe that call  after that outstanding performance . It's a shame his evening was ruined.

 
We're in danger of becoming the most easily offended fans in football.

After our terrific win at Villa , a fan called TalkSport to complain that Poch didn't go over and applaud him .And the other fans of course.

But in fact Poch waved away the cameras that were around him as he walked away  and directed them towards the payers celebrating in front of our fans indicating that they deserved the attention, not himself

I couldn't believe that call  after that outstanding performance . It's a shame his evening was ruined.
Why are you pretending that we are the odd ones out here? Every fan in world football would be furious with their player if they caught them laughing immediately after losing a semi final.

Hazard was massively criticised by Real Madrid fans when he did the same against us a few seasons back and the media in Spain also ripped him apart from it. 

Football is full of passion and heightened emotions. Stop pretending that it's odd behaviour to be annoyed seeing one of your players laughing with the opposition immediately after losing a semi final. Emotions are even more heightened when Madueke's professionalism has already been called into question multiple times this season before this.

The excuses I see of late from Chelsea fans are the exact same things we mocked Arsenal and Tottenham fans for for years. 

 
Why are you pretending that we are the odd ones out here? Every fan in world football would be furious with their player if they caught them laughing immediately after losing a semi final.

Hazard was massively criticised by Real Madrid fans when he did the same against us a few seasons back and the media in Spain also ripped him apart from it. 

Football is full of passion and heightened emotions. Stop pretending that it's odd behaviour to be annoyed seeing one of your players laughing with the opposition immediately after losing a semi final. Emotions are even more heightened when Madueke's professionalism has already been called into question multiple times this season before this.

The excuses I see of late from Chelsea fans are the exact same things we mocked Arsenal and Tottenham fans for for years. 
Well , you're obviously wrong Scott because not every fan in world football is furious .

Anyway mate , every one reacts differently,  that's just football, let's hope everyone Chelsea player and all our fans  are laughing tonight.

Take care mate , Come on you BLUES !

 
Well , you're obviously wrong Scott because not every fan in world football is furious .

Anyway mate , every one reacts differently,  that's just football, let's hope everyone Chelsea player and all our fans  are laughing tonight.

Take care mate , Come on you BLUES !
If it was their team, they would be furious. I've never seen a fanbase not react when they catch one of their players laughing with the opposition after losing a game.

 
Utter dogsh*t. Poor man's Zaha. No other big club wouldve touched him.

 
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