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Still think they are better off selling the idea of a short term move to Palace; London Club, European football, Guehi needs to be replaced & Lacroix is on the move so he will get first team football, and they sell at £20m + include a £30m buyback clause + 20% sell on clause. He has been messed around since he was 18yrs, he is already 20yrs. 2 years of solid football at Palace is better than being 4th choice here.
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There's no reason he shouldn't be starting for us. What do we benefit from selling him to Palace? The experience he gains there, he can get here.

 
Still think they are better off selling the idea of a short term move to Palace; London Club, European football, Guehi needs to be replaced & Lacroix is on the move so he will get first team football, and they sell at £20m + include a £30m buyback clause + 20% sell on clause. He has been messed around since he was 18yrs, he is already 20yrs. 2 years of solid football at Palace is better than being 4th choice here.
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  1. No one is buying someone for £20m with a £30m buy back.
  2. There's no reason why Josh would choose to come back here. If he does well at Palace, there's nothing stopping Arsenal buying him for £40m and him being delighted to go there instead.
I'd 100% accept he could go out on loan for 12 months somewhere in the PL. Primarily because it's hard to give a player minutes when we're not in Europe. But selling him is madness and won't result in a positive outcome for us.

 
Ideally Acheampong would be our 3rd or 4th choice CB in a season with no Europe.

Colwill, New CB, Chalobah, Acheampong.

But we all know this won't happen.

 
Ideally Acheampong would be our 3rd or 4th choice CB in a season with no Europe.

Colwill, New CB, Chalobah, Acheampong.

But we all know this won't happen.
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In fairness after the disaster of a season Trev has had, Josh should be seeing minutes ahead of him until proven otherwise.

Also are we giving Sarr another shot yet or is he on the bin pile?

 
  1. No one is buying someone for £20m with a £30m buy back.
  2. There's no reason why Josh would choose to come back here. If he does well at Palace, there's nothing stopping Arsenal buying him for £40m and him being delighted to go there instead.
I'd 100% accept he could go out on loan for 12 months somewhere in the PL. Primarily because it's hard to give a player minutes when we're not in Europe. But selling him is madness and won't result in a positive outcome for us.
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Sure the £30m buyback clause was too low, £40-£45m with a 20% sell on clause also, We had a £35m buyback clause in Livramento’s sale to Southampton, and chose to bank £15m instead. Spanish giants Madrid & Barca have been exploiting this for fun. Madrid sold Nico Paz to Como last season for €6m, and are resigning him for €10m this summer when he is at minimum a €50m player.

Well if he decides to go to Arsenal for £40m, a sell on clause at say 20% will kick in meaning we bank an extra £8m.

I liken his situation to Quansah at Liverpool who they sold to Leverkusen for £35m with a £70m buyback this season, and £56m one in 2027. He went out on loan at 19 to the Championship, came back at 20, racked up 1190 PL mins. That dropped to 539 PL mins at 21. Knowing Konate & Van Dijk were going to be 1st choice pairing, he was sold to Leverkusen with buyback clauses inserted. He has racked up 2500 Bundesliga mins in his 1st year.

Josh had 665 PL mins last season, he needs to be doubling it this season if he stays or it will just be a waste of everyone’s time.

 
Personally, I don't think Acheampong is ready, mainly because of the physical side. Saying he can improve that in the gym is too simplistic. He can go to the gym all he likes, but he needs to learn to use his physicality more than gain muscle. This has been his main issue in the little we have seen of him and it's something he will need to develop to make it to a top level.

Other than that, I think it was always going to be difficult for him to integrate into a team with what he has around him. Young players need experience and quality around them to learn from, especially at CB. It's the position that requires the most amount of concentration. Every defender in this squad is a disastrous time bomb, you can't really grow as a footballer surrounded by this amount of dross.

 
Sure the £30m buyback clause was too low, £40-£45m with a 20% sell on clause also, We had a £35m buyback clause in Livramento’s sale to Southampton, and chose to bank £15m instead. Spanish giants Madrid & Barca have been exploiting this for fun. Madrid sold Nico Paz to Como last season for €6m, and are resigning him for €10m this summer when he is at minimum a €50m player.

Well if he decides to go to Arsenal for £40m, a sell on clause at say 20% will kick in meaning we bank an extra £8m.

I liken his situation to Quansah at Liverpool who they sold to Leverkusen for £35m with a £70m buyback this season, and £56m one in 2027. He went out on loan at 19 to the Championship, came back at 20, racked up 1190 PL mins. That dropped to 539 PL mins at 21. Knowing Konate & Van Dijk were going to be 1st choice pairing, he was sold to Leverkusen with buyback clauses inserted. He has racked up 2500 Bundesliga mins in his 1st year.

Josh had 665 PL mins last season, he needs to be doubling it this season if he stays or it will just be a waste of everyone’s time.
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I understand he needs more minutes. But we all think he has the ability to be world class.

So the issue with a sell on clause is that we lose control of the player.

We aren't Madrid, if we let a world class player go, we don't know if they will come back when we ask. They will have options.

If we sold colwill to Brighton with a sell on, he 100% wouldn't be playing for Chelsea next season.

That's why I'd loan him.

 
SO JOSH IS UNTOUCHABLE IS HE?

SO WHY HAVE THEY TOLD MANCHESTER UNITED AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS HIM THE BIDDING STARTS AT 25M

 
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SO JOSH IS UNTOUCHABLE IS HE?

SO WHY HAVE THEY TOLD MANCHESTER UNITED AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS HIM THE BIDDING STARTS AT 25M
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SO JOSH IS UNTOUCHABLE IS HE?

SO WHY HAVE THEY TOLD MANCHESTER UNITED AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS HIM THE BIDDING STARTS AT 25M they haven't..
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Sure the £30m buyback clause was too low, £40-£45m with a 20% sell on clause also, We had a £35m buyback clause in Livramento’s sale to Southampton, and chose to bank £15m instead. Spanish giants Madrid & Barca have been exploiting this for fun. Madrid sold Nico Paz to Como last season for €6m, and are resigning him for €10m this summer when he is at minimum a €50m player.

Well if he decides to go to Arsenal for £40m, a sell on clause at say 20% will kick in meaning we bank an extra £8m.

I liken his situation to Quansah at Liverpool who they sold to Leverkusen for £35m with a £70m buyback this season, and £56m one in 2027. He went out on loan at 19 to the Championship, came back at 20, racked up 1190 PL mins. That dropped to 539 PL mins at 21. Knowing Konate & Van Dijk were going to be 1st choice pairing, he was sold to Leverkusen with buyback clauses inserted. He has racked up 2500 Bundesliga mins in his 1st year.

Josh had 665 PL mins last season, he needs to be doubling it this season if he stays or it will just be a waste of everyone’s time.
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Isn't Nico Paz on the verge of turning Madrid down to stay at Como?

 
Does he have a say? The buyback clause kicks in again next season for €10m
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Of course he has a say, you can't force a player to sign a contract.

This explains why you were so pro buy back clause.

 
Does he have a say? The buyback clause kicks in again next season for €10m
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The buyback clause requires the player and the original club to agree a new contract. It's not loaded in the club's favour beyond the price.

 
Of course he has a say, you can't force a player to sign a contract.

This explains why you were so pro buy back clause.
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I mean anything else is basically slavery, im surprised anyone thinks otherwise.

 
Of course he has a say, you can't force a player to sign a contract.

This explains why you were so pro buy back clause.
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I know that. He is hesitant about going back till he knows where he fits in the club’s plans.

In this instance; a sale with a buyback clause strengthens Josh’s position, instead of just sending him out on endless loan deals.

 
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