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Kalidou Koulibaly

OhForAGreavsie said:
There is no reason why you, or I for that matter, cannot have accurate opinions about football and good ideas about what should, or should not, be done. We don't need to be football professionals to know what we're talking about; we just need to know what we're talking about. Those who imagine that negotiating football transfers is a simple business clearly don't.

This summer many Chelsea fans are comparing our negotiators unfavourably to Man City's and asserting that we should just get it done like they do. Last summer however, when we signed Kante, the boot was on the other foot. Their fans, or some of them at any rate, were complaining about their club's methods. As one post on BlueMoon put it, " Fee agreed yesterday, signed today. If only our transfer negotiators were that efficient. Takes the piss really." His simplistic way of looking at things was just as wrong of course as the simplistic way some Chelsea fans look at our transfer dealings. We got Kante done because it was doable. No more, no less. City got Silva and Eduardo done because those deals were doable, but they don't seem to be having any less difficulty with their other business than we are. Walking in, asking for the price, then paying, or not paying it is a beautiful idea but it's not fit for purpose I'm afraid.

There is plenty of room for people to doubt the quality of our negotiating team if they want to. When they couch those criticisms in terms which demonstrate a lack of understanding about the challenges Marina, and others, face however, then they can't expect their observations to get a free pass.
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You have to understand though that a lot of the frustrations with Marina and co aren't invalid. Especially after the terrible 2015 summer. And when you consider the recent trend we've had of pissing about the summer after winning a title (2010, 2015), it seems like the board have developed a habit of complacency post title wins. It would be utterly stupid to repeat the same mistake this summer.

I do understand that they're not just sitting on their arses all day and that they're working to get certain deals done. I just hope we do it the right way this time. A Koulibaly/Stones repeat would be terrible for us and would waste our time. I've had knee jerk reactions this summer already (after City signed Silva) but I've decided to cut the board some slack. If by July 1st, we still don't have any real targets nailed then I think it'll be time to panic again.

 
Barrettinator said:
You have to understand though that a lot of the frustrations with Marina and co aren't invalid. Especially after the terrible 2015 summer. And when you consider the recent trend we've had of pissing about the summer after winning a title (2010, 2015), it seems like the board have developed a habit of complacency post title wins. It would be utterly stupid to repeat the same mistake this summer.

I do understand that they're not just sitting on their arses all day and that they're working to get certain deals done. I just hope we do it the right way this time. A Koulibaly/Stones repeat would be terrible for us and would waste our time. I've had knee jerk reactions this summer already (after City signed Silva) but I've decided to cut the board some slack. If by July 1st, we still don't have any real targets nailed then I think it'll be time to panic again.
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2015 was mainly Jose's fault.And we have got targets nailed on, we have signed 3 players as good as.

 
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Argo said:
2015 was mainly Jose's fault.And we have got targets nailed on, we have signed 3 players as good as.
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Er, I still need to see them to believe it.  We have the whole of July to see if that occurs.

 
lchk said:
Er, I still need to see them to believe it.  We have the whole of July to see if that occurs.
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Same noices are being made re Lukaku and Baka that were Costa and Luis, neithe of those two were announced till mid July but it was inevitable.

 
PedroMendez said:
If you want to point to a transfer saga that we did piss up the wall, that would be the Stones saga, but funnily enough it looks like we dodged a bullet. I also think that we did learn from that experience and that Luiz is testament to that when it all went tits up we had a back up plan and pulled it off.
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We may have dodged one bullet but due to that fiasco Djilobodji was bought and we missed Alderweireld  :face_palm:

We could have lined up with a back 3 of Toby, Luiz and Azpi this season. That's a backline good enough for the CL

 
Deino said:
We may have dodged one bullet but due to that fiasco Djilobodji was bought and we missed Alderweireld  :face_palm:

We could have lined up with a back 3 of Toby, Luiz and Azpi this season. That's a backline good enough for the CL
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Yeah I don't think anyone can deny it was a fiasco,

On another note I don't really rate Alderweireld think he is solid but nothing special, as with most of the Tottenham squad I think Poch makes the most out of him and covers a lot of his flaws, I think Conte would do the same but don't see him as much if at all better than Cahill.

 
PedroMendez said:
Yeah I don't think anyone can deny it was a fiasco,

On another note I don't really rate Alderweireld think he is solid but nothing special, as with most of the Tottenham squad I think Poch makes the most out of him and covers a lot of his flaws, I think Conte would do the same but don't see him as much if at all better than Cahill.
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Have to disagree a bit there mate Alderweireld is probably the best CB in the PL.

 
Seems like we are looking at him again 

The journalist of SportItalia , Alfredo Pedullà , has released some statements to the microphones of Radio Sportivatrying to anticipate the market moves of the Naples in view of the next summer: "Koulibaly? Naples has in the past refused offers from 60, 70 million euros. Chelsea will return to the charge for the Senegalese defender next summer, and I can predict offers of at least 80 million for him ".

"Napoli, however, will not be watching, if Koulibaly will leave, a very important player will come in. At the moment, however, it is premature to name names and De Laurentiis would immediately reinvest the money collected for the defender".

 
enigma said:
Seems like we are looking at him again 
The journalist of SportItalia , Alfredo Pedullà , has released some statements to the microphones of Radio Sportivatrying to anticipate the market moves of the Naples in view of the next summer: "Koulibaly? Naples has in the past refused offers from 60, 70 million euros. Chelsea will return to the charge for the Senegalese defender next summer, and I can predict offers of at least 80 million for him ".
"Napoli, however, will not be watching, if Koulibaly will leave, a very important player will come in. At the moment, however, it is premature to name names and De Laurentiis would immediately reinvest the money collected for the defender".
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I'd imagine we have never stopped. If we are moving to a more possession based manager in the summer then he is an essential purchase. Superb on the ball and big enough to dominate in the PL also.

Will take a VVD like fee to get him i'd imagine. Although we might be able to get something for Luiz who is surely moving on in the summer.
 
dan_cfc said:
Imagine the pace and power with him in Rudiger at the back.
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Throw in a very technically gifted CB like Christensen and we'd be set

Azpi........Christensen........Koulibaly/Rudiger.........Emerson

Under a manager like Sarri that would be a quality defence 

 
Napoli play with a 4 at the back. If Sarri is the manager coming in, that should make the deal more likely.

 
He virtually gifted the Scudetto to Juventus a few days ago in Fiorentina’s 3-0 win over Napoli with poor defensive judgement . this just a few days after his heroic status with his late winner when Napoli beat Juve 0-1 to reduce the gap to a point.

Unquestionably a fine defender but is prone to the odd blunder. 

 
Am happy with the transfer ban, it probably makes it impossible for us to ever get Koulibaly. If we are going to spend crazy money for a defender, he should be within the ages of 24 to 27, not someone who is older. Besides, I haven't seen much to convince me Koulibaly can be a world class defender. He will really struggle especially in the EPL if any team sign him for a ridiculous fee.

 
Pretty much a bigger, stronger Zouma. Not sure if hes worth anywhere near the price being touted. 

I feel like these smaller clubs just put ridiculous prices on, simply because of teams like PSG, Utd and City mainly throwing huge sums without a care in the world. 

 
Dunno why we didn’t just pay the money when Conte wanted him. 

Would have been the bedrock of our defence now. 

We have to put up with garbage like Rudiger and Christensen now. ?

 
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