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Liverpool vs Chelsea (PL) Wed 31st Jan 24 20:15 GMT

We sat back and watched them play, we did the same at Old trafford when we played United.  Poch got all the tactics wrong for this one.  When we played the filthy scouse b'stards earlier in the season [sorry but i really fcucking hate Liverpool] we played well. They have progressed and we have not.

Positives
Nkunku played well and he should start as a striker.  A new JFH.  A no.9
Petrovic was great in goal - even though he conceded 4 - we have a goalkeeper now.

That's it for the positives.

When poch switched to a 4-3-3 we looked better.  Enzo, Palmer and Chukwuemeka as the 3.  No need to ever play both Caicedo and Enzo.

Negatives
the rest of it
You cannot play a CB as a LB - kid looked lost
 

 
Shocking performance. Do we actually prepare for games or just turn up and hope for the best? It’s like we walked into an ambush and got massacred. No-one seemed to know what do. There was no plan. No tactics. No strategy. Just a lot of running about in blind panic and hoping the ref would come to our aid. Fat chance. We got what we deserved. 

 
Similar thing was against Luton . 3-0 and we barley kept 3-2, could be 3-4. Its not only about tactics and system. Its also about players to keep some level.

 
The set up was terrible. We had no valid plan to beat the press with the midfielders too far apart.  As a result there were kamikaze dribbles from Chilwell and Sterling which naturally result in lost possession. Lots of short and medium passes went astray due to both a poor pass and lack of intensity from the recipient.

There were a couple of alternative plans we could have tried both of which would have involved the entire team getting more compact. Gallagher, Enzo (who had a pretty ordinary game) and Caicedo could have played much closer together. If we can't keep the ball we could have had a plan to go long regularly and let sterling or Madueke (not pacy for a winger) chase it.

There is a lot of blame to fall on Poch's head in reality but he will  be able to point to the unbelievably poor performance from Chilwell and the aptly nicknamed Baddy.
Chilwell still seemed to think he was a winger. Incredible really.

 
I told my Liverpool supporter best mate that I am very disappointed...

...disappointed in his lot. Only 4 with us being that sh*t was them taking the pi$$ out of us way more playing in second gear than actually taking us seriously and punishing us.

Utter humiliation.

 
The scoreline flatters us.  We looked completely lost out there like a bunch of school kids watching the big boys having a kick around at our expense.   There was no shape to our play and as I have repeatedly stated Enzo and Caicedo are miles apart leaving a gaping hole in midfield which Liverpool comfortably sat in for 90 mins.  A disaster all over the pitch, defensively, midfield and a toothless attack all put together with a manager that is now certainly questionable.  I like many others wonder WTF do these players and coaches do all week because its Fred Kano's army on match day.   I think Potch has run out of ideas now.  He's tried different combinations of players and each time its been a shambles..Middlesborough 2nd game aside.   

Today's performance was not because of injuries, it was one of lack of belief by the players that we could actually get something today; a lack of even the basic ball control and passing, no intensity, no desire and no understanding what the game plan was, even if there actually was one.  The defending has become worse, the midfield is shocking for the money that has been spent, and the forwards all season have been appalling to mediocre to bang average at best....and some players should not be anywhere near the first team dressing room. It's not that we were likely to get anything today but FFS show some effort and desire and the Manager needs to grow some balls and start laying into these lazy overpaid young men....men not kids, that stopped at 18, so the 'kids' stuff excuse ain't going to wash with the fans any longer.  

 
Everything tonight stemmed from the CB pairing imo. Silva shouldn’t have been anywhere near a start tonight. The way they play does not suit him. Their  press left our defence too deep and too much space to the midfield. 

Bada was stinking. His first few appearances showed promise but he’s nowhere near the level we need him to be. I’d fancy scoring if playing against him and I’m 52. 
 

We desperately need someone up front. This false 9 gash doesn’t work.  I don’t understand why Washington doesn’t get more minutes. The little we’ve seen tells me he’s got as much potential as Broja or Jackson.

Lavia better be a player because the lack of protection Enzo and Caicedo provided was so poor. I get the feeling it will be Lavia and one of the other 2 because it’s not working with the two tonight. 

Nkunku will do the business for us if we can keep him fit and Carney I think will be a regular starter. 

Nkunku off the left, Palmer off the right and Carney as a 10.  An Osimhen or similar playing in front of those 3 makes us a much better prospect. 
 

Mudryk will never win the Ballon D’or that’s for sure. If he was playing in the Championship a club like Brentford or Brighton might have picked him up for £25 million. He gives me the exact same vibe as Kepa did and not in a good way.
 

I’m a few malts in so apologies for the ramble. Just watched the highlights on MOTD (as if enduring the game live wasn’t bad enough) and I stand by everything I’ve said.

I Feckin hate the Scousers.

 
That was a bit sh*t wasn’t it. Cup final should be a laugh, can only hope they underestimate us after that. Probably still beat us even if they do.

Petrovic a small shining light. Nkunku great finish. Carney looks like he can still move. Gusto didn’t look too bad.

Refs were a load of sh*t, would probably be really angry right now if the lads had deserved anything from the game. But f**k them, they deserved the injustice, that was awful.

I don’t even expect us to compete, Liverpool are years ahead of us right now. I’m just fed up of the lack of effort and organisation. We rely on individual brilliance to create scenarios. Half of their lot will probably look sh*te once Klopps gone, they don’t need to be great to work in his system.

Long few years ahead I think.

 
Reffing was corrupt, but we were even more diabolical. In the end we were lucky to get away with a 4-1 defeat. Doesn't bode well for the final in a few weeks. 

After today's game I won't be surprised if the owners decide to cash in on both Broja and Gallagher tomorrow. If they didn't realise before today, they will likely now be sure that we have no chance of European football next season, and so they will want to raise funds for FFP ahead before contracts run down any further.

I know there are plenty of negative comments towards Poch after tonight, and he certainly has to take some blame. But I really don't see something simple like a change of manager delivering any drastic turnaround. We have to hope that a decent number of these young players fulfil their potential, because we have invested heavily in them. But on the showing so far, too many of them look like bad investments. I think midtable is going to become the new normal for us.

 
I wasn't bothered with this game, I knew this is going to happen. If you go to anfield you need to be ready mentally otherwise you will get battered. 

 
Niall1905 said:
That was a bit sh*t wasn’t it. Cup final should be a laugh, can only hope they underestimate us after that. Probably still beat us even if they do.

Petrovic a small shining light. Nkunku great finish. Carney looks like he can still move. Gusto didn’t look too bad.

Refs were a load of sh*t, would probably be really angry right now if the lads had deserved anything from the game. But f**k them, they deserved the injustice, that was awful.

I don’t even expect us to compete, Liverpool are years ahead of us right now. I’m just fed up of the lack of effort and organisation. We rely on individual brilliance to create scenarios. Half of their lot will probably look sh*te once Klopps gone, they don’t need to be great to work in his system.

Long few years ahead I think.
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Is the final in anfield? 

 
It’s come to something when the return of Nicholas Jackson from AFCON is actually looking like it might help the team. 

 
axman2526 said:
No Bob, not new, just that the venue makes no difference. Either way Liverpool are much, much better than us. 
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It make all the difference. 

Let's forget about the crowd. In anfield all 50/50 decision becomes 90/10, you won't ever get penalty unless pool player bring a gun and shoot your player, on the other end 50/50 penalty is a penalty for them. 

If the final in anfield, I won't back any team, not even city or real against pool. 

 
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Bob stark said:
It make all the difference. 

Let's forget about the crowd. In anfield all 50/50 decision becomes 90/10, you won't ever get penalty unless pool player bring a gun and shoot your player, on the other end 50/50 penalty is a penalty for them. 

If the final in anfield, I won't back any team, not even city or real against pool. 
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Liverpool certainly had the ref on their side from the start tonight but that doesn't excuse the way we rolled over. Even Norwich put up more fight than us at Anfield last weekend. And this is not the first time we have put in an embarassing display away from home this season.

 
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