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Man City v Chelsea (FA) Sun 8th Jan 2023 16:30 GMT

enigma said:
What do we do then? Because we will never build anything if we hire and fire all the time. How do we sell a project if we can't keep a manager longer than a few months?
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Appreciate that view but then again do we proceed with putting up a Burj Khalifa when we know the Premier Inn builders we gave the job to are not capable of pulling it off, just because we want the project completed? 

 
Who had the only shot on target?, I was staring into the abyss during that moment in the game

 
Sacking Potter will be costly but these owners love wasting money. I’ve wanted previous Managers given more time and give them a chance, not sure Potter is that Man

 
enigma said:
What do we do then? Because we will never build anything if we hire and fire all the time. How do we sell a project if we can't keep a manager longer than a few months?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not even calling for him to get the sack. I believe he should have at least a full season but I'm never an advocate of getting by if we have the resources to excel. Just because we want to appear a stable club. 

 
Well they got one thing right - it’s going to get worse before it gets better. 

Buckle up ladies and gents. 

This is unacceptable though 

 
abister1 said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not even calling for him to get the sack. I believe he should have at least a full season but I'm never an advocate of getting by if we have the resources to excel. Just because we want to appear a stable club. 
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My anger is not at GP but the rage I have for Todd knows no bounds. He didn't have to sack TT WHEN he did. If there is anything that has threatened our stability, it is that egotistic move. Agreed they weren't maybe pulling in the same direction but TT no matter how bad things were and as one of the leagues top managers, along with how he expertly provided counsel, guidance and direction to the fans and team in our darkest moments should have been at least given the full season to see if

(I) he would come around to their way of thinking by season end

(ii) we could have gone through a thorough exploration and recruitment process to put the caliber of manager in place that befits a club of our stature. One that has a history of winning it all, being a top club in world football and wants to remain competitive and win even more things. 

 
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I don't have a problem with the sacking of Tuchel. Team wasn't playing well and he has a shelf life.

The problem was quickly settling on and committing to Pecan Potter when we any real search should have gotten a far better manager. 

 
I actually think we are getting some decent players into the club yet will take a few weeks to bed them in.

Yet a month from now our starting 11 might be very different.

Without James and Chilwell TT started losing and the same has happened with Potter yet TT had a pre-season.

 
Kova and Ziyech 3 weeks ago outstanding in the WC today just looked like they didn't give a toss. KK, ZZZZiyech he plays like he's half awake, plastic face Gallagher looks like a mannequin and has about the same movement, Havertz looks like an undernourished crackhead and Auba should never play for Chelsea again absolutely useless and the pouty Mount is on borrowed time as well.

I mentioned that a couple of mates were at the Forest game in the match thread and there were rumblings about Potter well after songs about Roman and Tuchel he's a dead man walking lose to Fulham on Thursday (and he has to cross the pitch to the dugouts unless that's changed I know they have a new stand haven't watched a single minute of any of their games) he's going to get some dreadful and deserved stick I'm not a fan he's like Gareth Southgate the sort of middle manager in the local bank twat who dresses up for Comic Relief etc.

 
Bring back Thomas Tuchel as head coach & Frank Lampard as his assistance & bring back Steve Holland too.

Back to the drawing board.

 
I think within a few games Santos will be upfront for us,  Fofana, Zakaria and Chukuw. in our first 11 as will be the new defender from France, James will probably be back and we might just win 4  or 5 on the bounce. 

I also expect us to sign a new right back.

If we look at the transfer window, no-one wants our current players, I haven't yet heard of any offers.........

Ziyech - Morrocco played counter attack football with Hakimi behind him, remember we were reputedly interested in Hakimi yet came to nothing. 

Kovacic- played with quality players and under an experienced manager. 

 
there is no excuse for not passing the ball forward A manager has to make do with what he has and adapt accordingly  Even if its playing route one  to get a result  Fans allow for injuries , lack of time  But we must see a system  some that looks like a way to progress  sorry GP you have shown nothing 

 
ZouMan said:
Bring back Thomas Tuchel as head coach & Frank Lampard as his assistance & bring back Steve Holland too.

Back to the drawing board.
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If it was up to me I would have 2004 Mourinho back with Ray Wilkins as his assistance. That would guarantee us shooting back up to top of table.

 
abister1 said:
My anger is not at GP but the rage I have for Todd knows no bounds. He didn't have to sack TT WHEN he did. If there is anything that has threatened our stability, it is that egotistic move. Agreed they weren't maybe pulling in the same direction but TT no matter how bad things were and as one of the leagues top managers, along with how he expertly provided counsel, guidance and direction to the fans and team in our darkest moments should have been at least given the full season to see if

(I) he would come around to their way of thinking by season end

(ii) we could have gone through a thorough exploration and recruitment process to put the caliber of manager in place that befits a club of our stature. One that has a history of winning it all, being a top club in world football and wants to remain competitive and win even more things. 
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Agreed. Todd's timing of that really screwed things up.

Did not watch the game bit reading about it, it sounds like several players don't give a toss about playing for Chelsea, and even more don't want to play for Potter.

Shamefully they did this while we are morning Luca.

 
I am not surprised by our form, we could change manager again and have a honeymoon period, think it is fixed and back to square one. 
 

there is no quick fix here for me. 

what other club has had sanctions against them at one point not knowing if the club would exist, then go into a protracted sale, lose its key players to injury, bring in a load of dross players, change manager it’s bound to have an effect.  

we will be back, I personally think we need to sit out this season, and hope we don’t get relegated 😂

 
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