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Man Utd v Chelsea (PL) Thur 25th May 2023 20:00 GMT

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Neither of them are good enough sconnie. Difference is Havertz is not, and never has been, a centre-forward.

We should never have gone anywhere near Aubameyang.
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I agree with that but when Havertz has been so poor he’s dribbling out of the pitch under zero pressure like we saw against Fulham away, it creates a demand for change when he still continues to start. 

 
So ... one more chance to beat a side in the top half 🙂 

A whole season without beating any side in the top half would be some achievement LOL

(Villa were 12th when we beat them before anyone points out that we beat them and they are 7th).

 
Dr. Socrates said:
Lampard will be lucky if he manages an under 10 side after this debacle.

As bad as Potter was, hiring Lampard as an interim has been a total disaster. 
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Never understood it at the time.

Hassekbaink, a proven Chelsea striker, a coach and the Chelsea TV pundit gats picked up by England whilst we go for Lampard on the rebound from his disastrous tenure at Everton. 

I am not saying that Hasselbaink would have been the answer but on the basis of where our deficiencies have been surely he would have been a better choice than Frank.

 
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The crazy thing is that Utd aren't even good. We are simply atrocious at the moment. We are way off. 

 
Glad Frank was pissed off and tried to say what he thought of this squad after today.

 
You have to give the players credit, how they seem to find new ways to miss chances or key passes game after game is impressive.

 
I applaud the fans who went to the game, or even watched the full game on TV. The performance was utterly embarrassing again, it' no longer about getting things right to win a game, but whether to even try on the field. I get it the owner is a fool, but he will get better if he does follow his plan to be less hands on next season. The managers are awful, but we will get a better one next season. The players, they just have to try harder despite all the other factors, can't believe players would stop trying and settle for a 3 or 4 goals beating without a reaction. At least have a bit of pride, for god sake. Even a team in the lower division wouldn't have collapsed like we did, it's almost like all the players just decided to f* this season and just walk through the last few games.

 
Richard P said:
Glad Frank was pissed off and tried to say what he thought of this squad after today.
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Not his fault they can't put the bloody ball in the net. Lampard was a world class player who knew how to score goals, and played alongside those who could score too. To watch this lot miss chance after chance, after chance must be frustrating. 

 
The players' fitness levels are way off. I think if the rumours are true that pre-season wasn't good, then it makes sense that all season they haven't been able to bring their fitness up to the rest of the top sides. On top of that injuries throughout the season. The preparation this season has been way off. 

 
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This kind of thing just puts the cherry on top of how much of a disgrace these lot are, where is the togetherness?, nobody backing Enzo against the entire United team squaring up to him.. just Kepa in the end. And I don’t wanna hear about experience or leaders as this is just the basics of being a team and having each other’s back.

 
United have scored 4 goals in a game just 3 times this season and their goals have been drying up a lot since they won the League Cup...........so of course they would put that right from their perspective against us. 

I'm running out words for this Chelsea team. I can't remember a team falling this badly so quickly.

 
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This kind of thing just puts the cherry on top of how much of a disgrace these lot are, where is the togetherness?, nobody backing Enzo against the entire United team squaring up to him.. just Kepa in the end. And I don’t wanna hear about experience or leaders as this is just the basics of being a team and having each other’s back.
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All the more reason to get Dibu Martinez and Ugarte. 

Team needs some sh*tehouses. 

 
Scott Harris said:
United have scored 4 goals in a game just 3 times this season and their goals have been drying up a lot since they won the League Cup...........so of course they would put that right from their perspective against us. 

I'm running out words for this Chelsea team. I can't remember a team falling this badly so quickly.
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SKY put up a graphic before the start of the game Scott that said we hadn't beaten Man U in the previous 10 games so obviously tonight's result now makes it 11. It's not just this season we have struggled to turn them over.

 
Most casual observers are stunned at how bad our results and performances (both individual and collective) are. They really haven't been paying attention. We have been appalling since preseason, and the takeover, behind the scenes chaos and unbelievable mismanagement by the new owners have left us with a squad of demoralised, bewildered and demotivated players whose form has been in decline for an entire year. A nightmarish injury record (for the second year in a row) has exacerbated things, with vital players either out or just unfit for large parts of the season, but if the squad had real spirit and the will to win of previous Chelsea teams we could have overcome these absences. 

We're sh*t and we know we are. Lampard knows it, the players know it, the supporters know it. We've had sh*t recruitment, sh*t conditioning, sh*t coaching, sh*t team selection and sh*t substitutions. It's been sh*t watching us for a long time, so this is not the sudden, baffling decline many outsiders seem to think it is.

Hopefully Pochettino also knows it and isn't deluded enough to think a few quick fixes and a few new signings will put everything right very quickly.

 
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