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dkw said:
I think the thinking is if MS can actually make use of this cloud processing thing then the Xbox one can be incredibly powerful. Big if though.
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But because they have reversed the always online they can no longer fall back on the cloud because they're are essentially now saying they console will function offline (without cloud).

So unless they manage to sell games with a massive disclaimer that says "this will only work if connected to the internet" the way I see it they've hindered themselves. 

 
ForeverCarefree said:
But because they have reversed the always online they can no longer fall back on the cloud because they're are essentially now saying they console will function offline (without cloud).

So unless they manage to sell games with a massive disclaimer that says "this will only work if connected to the internet" the way I see it they've hindered themselves.
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I may be reading it wrong, but I think not connecting to the cloud won't stop you playing a game but being connected will massively improve games. The only one using it now is forza to give better opposing drivers. It could be a brilliant idea if done right.Plus, I would expect the majority of gamers to be connected to the net whenever playing a game now. I know my 360 has been connected since I got it.

 
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Had a text today from Game to say that PS4 is coming soon. Proper excited for it. A guy in game said that phase 3 of the pre-orders should be here 1st Dec.

Disappointed that Watchdogs has been delayed until spring. Going to have to change my preorder. I'm not really a FIFA man, much rather play PES but not ssure I can last until Sept 2014.

 
I had an Xbox 360 which died and I replaced for a PS3. Gotta say, I missed the 360 ever since so it'll be the Xbox One for me this time.

However, I also want the iPhone 5s, and the iPad air, and a new iMac too... I also need to pay off the small loan I took to buy my new car...

Looks like I'll be waiting a while. Watchdogs look awesome by the way. Reminds me of a cross between GTA and Splinter Cell.

 
dkw said:
hmm, not looking good for the PS4, half of all reviews are 1 star after failures at delivery on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Launch-Edition/product-reviews/B00BGA9WK2/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=byRankDescending
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Trouble Amazon reviews are that people rate Amazon's delivery service not the product itself.

FIFA 13 has terrible reviews because Amazon failed to delivery a lot of ore ordered copies on launch day (mine included).

 
Zola said:
Thought this was a good article comparing the basics.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/technology-gadgets/ps4-v-xbox-one-comparing-sony-and-microsofts-latest-consoles-29756353.html

Its interesting now that ps4 online has to be bought, same as xbox. Also for tbose saying ps4 is cbeaper ot was interesting to know the playstation eye os not included. ..the question is how much will this be?

All in all the price probably ends up very similar.
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PS Eye is about £60 I think although it could be more, by not including it as part of the console it means the new light bar on the controller is a bit pointless because a lot of developers won't bother using it now.

I find the camera a bit of a gimmick myself and don't like waving my arms about like a loon when playing games.

The Xbox's Kinnect camera is meant to be seriously impressive but what developers will do with it remains to be seen, the original connect ended up being a but of a joke and the games that used it were generally a bit pants.

 
Zola said:
Its interesting now that ps4 online has to be bought, same as xbox. Also for tbose saying ps4 is cbeaper ot was interesting to know the playstation eye os not included. ..the question is how much will this be?
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It will retail around £40, ($60). So it's still cheaper all together than the Xbox One. The Eye is a gimick anyway, just like Kinect. Unless you like the idea of speaking to your console to turn it off and on. I'm not bothered about the eye to be honest.

 
I got quite lucky with my original 360, it lasted a solid three years or so before red ringing. Upgraded to an Elite and haven't had any problems with it.

I don't think I'll be making the switch to next-gen any time soon, a bit too pricey and time consuming for me with uni coming up next year.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Trouble Amazon reviews are that people rate Amazon's delivery service not the product itself.

FIFA 13 has terrible reviews because Amazon failed to delivery a lot of ore ordered copies on launch day (mine included).
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Reading through the first few pages pretty much every one of them was console DOA. Some problem with the HDMI port too. 

 
dkw said:
Reading through the first few pages pretty much every one of them was console DOA. Some problem with the HDMI port too. 
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Something you need to consider as well is that most of the people that are happy with their PS4's will not write a single opinion about it, but all of the people who have hardware problems are going to write about it.

 
Failure rate is apparently at around 4%.

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think you have to of actually bought the product to be able to review it on Amazon so there is a chance there is some Xbox fan boy trolling taking place.

 
2 years after buying my PS3, I've just worked out how to get it connected to my wireless so I can play Fifa online. Well, when it's not lagging and freezing anyway.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Failure rate is apparently at around 4%.

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think you have to of actually bought the product to be able to review it on Amazon so there is a chance there is some Xbox fan boy trolling taking place.
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Last time I read it was around 76% were verified purchasers. But if it is 4% (I`m sure I read it was only actually .4% which is acceptable) then thats pretty bad. I would be gutted if I ordered one and it came bricked, has anyone on here got a day one PS4 coming? Hopefully no one has a problem with it, and we can thank our US cousins for stress testing them  a few weeks early.

 
Scott Harris said:
Something you need to consider as well is that most of the people that are happy with their PS4's will not write a single opinion about it, but all of the people who have hardware problems are going to write about it.
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True, and if it is only a .4% failure rate then its not really that much of a big problem. Certainly not as bad as xbox`s RROD balls up.

 
dkw said:
Last time I read it was around 76% were verified purchasers. But if it is 4% (I`m sure I read it was only actually .4% which is acceptable) then thats pretty bad. I would be gutted if I ordered one and it came bricked, has anyone on here got a day one PS4 coming? Hopefully no one has a problem with it, and we can thank our US cousins for stress testing them  a few weeks early.
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Yeah my mistake it is in fact 0.4%

Apparently falls in line with Sony were expecting (but who knows). That said Sony have confirmed they sold over 1 million consoles in the first 24 hours, in North America apparently the Nintendo Gamecube sold around 650,000 units in it's first month which is the second highest selling now. Which just shows how huge these console releases are. 

I agree though, if you were one of that 0.4% you would be gutted, especially considering how much money these consoles cost. 

 
Finally took the decision and put my xbox 360 up for sale in order to get at least half the money to buy a PS4, I was thinking not to get a nextgen but watching all these nextgen fifa videos I simply cannot resist, and EA Sports UFC is coming out in the spring ffs I need to get it.

 
Not sure if the UK, Europe and Oceania are up to date with South Park, but last week there was a new episode in America where the South Park kids lampooned the next gen consoles while also parodying Game of Thrones. I was in stitches the whole time, must watch for any die hard Sony, Xbox or GoT people!

 
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Butterhampton FC said:
Not sure if the UK, Europe and Oceania are up to date with South Park, but last week there was a new episode in America where the South Park kids lampooned the next gen consoles while also parodying Game of Thrones. I was in stitches the whole time, must watch for any die hard Sony, Xbox or GoT people!
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what season and episode number? will have to download it. I haven't watched a southpark in years.

 
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