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Reece James

Said to my dad at kick off, I wonder how long he'd last before going off injured. 50 minutes I think it was.

Hasn't played a full game in his recovery yet and then thrown in to start in the PL. Stupid.

 
Zeta said:
Hasn't played a full game in his recovery yet and then thrown in to start in the PL. Stupid.
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Yeah I don't want to be negative after a win but that was a junior mistake from Potter.
It's so odd because he said this just yesterday which was sensible but then he's just thrown straight into it today.

‘The plan now is to try and help him play his minutes and the next challenge is building them up in the Premier League, which is not an ideal place to do that but he’s got the capacity to do it.

‘We just need to be clear and careful with the minutes that he plays but I’m confident that the more football he plays, the more we’ll see what a fantastic player he is.’

 
Questions have to be asked of our medical team and the decisions being made by them and the management. We get so many injuries, and several are reoccurring now, in players that are obviously being brought back before their bodies are ready.

 
At the risk of sounding like Ty from Arsenal TV, why wasn’t the weather considered?, ‘statistically’ conditions like that are the worst way to come back from injury. Soaking pitch, pissing it down.. and he starts the game and most likely was due to continue until the end let’s face it. If luck is going against you, why even risk it.. but that’s just how bad Azpi is now as an option for us; we’d rather throw Reece right back out there than start him. 

 
OriginalS said:
Yeah I don't want to be negative after a win but that was a junior mistake from Potter.
It's so odd because he said this just yesterday which was sensible but then he's just thrown straight into it today.

‘The plan now is to try and help him play his minutes and the next challenge is building them up in the Premier League, which is not an ideal place to do that but he’s got the capacity to do it.

‘We just need to be clear and careful with the minutes that he plays but I’m confident that the more football he plays, the more we’ll see what a fantastic player he is.’
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Hi

Chief Grahampotterologist here.

When Graham says "managing minutes" he more often than not refers to the number of minutes done over a prolonged time - meaning James wouldn't be starting two games in a week for a while and so forth. Today I'm guessing he would have been subbed off around the hour mark.

Sad for the lad, he is a fantastic player.

Hopefully nothing horribly bad but it did not look good. At first I thought it was just a small feeling in his knee since he kept playing for a minute or two despite not moving properly when he didnt get that corner early in the second half. But then when he saw that the sub was going to happen and his adrenaline level dropped, it was noticeable that he realised exactly how bad it was...

My guess is another surgery and similar amount of time out injured as last time it happened.

 
axman2526 said:
That does sound like our staff/medical team not looking after him don't it...
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Yup. Or a sh*te surgery.

It would be somewhat out of character for GP to play a half-injured player. When Tariq Lamptey in Brighton had his surgery with prolonged absence, it took six weeks from Lamptey being declared fit to him getting a start.

It'd be nice if his performance coach would stop biting his tongue and tell what he thinks because I think GP & the coaching staff is no more happy than he is, and would like to get some answers.

 
SwedishEntity said:
Yup. Or a sh*te surgery.

It would be somewhat out of character for GP to play a half-injured player. When Tariq Lamptey in Brighton had his surgery with prolonged absence, it took six weeks from Lamptey being declared fit to him getting a start.

It'd be nice if his performance coach would stop biting his tongue and tell what he thinks because I think GP & the coaching staff is no more happy than he is, and would like to get some answers.
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He did not have surgery for this injury, it was managed in house by docs and physio. Maybe now he will need surgery, like kante did when we tried to manage his recovery.

 
axman2526 said:
He did not have surgery for this injury, it was managed in house by docs and physio. Maybe now he will need surgery, like kante did when we tried to manage his recovery.
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Ok. Easy to imagine that maybe he should have had one. But what do I know, I'm no doctor (though there should be one around to make wise decisions around these things).

 
We aren't the same team without him.  Big loss if he is out for a significant period of time.

 
I thought we stopped playing as soon as he went off, and couldn't even hold the ball. Whether it's couple of games or months, his absence will be huge. I'm not in favour of signings in this window, but I'd probably get a right back if there are decent options out there

 
SwedishEntity said:
Hi

Chief Grahampotterologist here.

When Graham says "managing minutes" he more often than not refers to the number of minutes done over a prolonged time - meaning James wouldn't be starting two games in a week for a while and so forth. Today I'm guessing he would have been subbed off around the hour mark.

Sad for the lad, he is a fantastic player.

Hopefully nothing horribly bad but it did not look good. At first I thought it was just a small feeling in his knee since he kept playing for a minute or two despite not moving properly when he didnt get that corner early in the second half. But then when he saw that the sub was going to happen and his adrenaline level dropped, it was noticeable that he realised exactly how bad it was...

My guess is another surgery and similar amount of time out injured as last time it happened.
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Yes I get that. But Potter should have shown extreme caution with R.James after a serious knee ligament injury.  It's more or less unheard of to throw a player right into the XI after such an injury, even more so when it's someone like James who we know is fragile.

He should have been on the pitch for the last 10 minutes or so yesterday. Then 20 against Forest and then perhaps start against City if everything went well. Now we are screwed instead and that didn't need to happen. It sounds like the James camp is pissed off as well which is understandable. Major mistake from the manager.

 
James wasn't thrown in cold, he played 60 minutes v Brentford in the friendly, he will have been tested all data checked to build a plan for rehab, part of which was to play minutes in yesterdays game.

Its horrible bad luck, its not someone's fault, no matter how much some people are desperate to paint Potter as some kind of clueless clown. 

 
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