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Renato Veiga

Why would anyone moan about doubling their money in a year? You're getting upset about made up scenarios again.
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I'm sure you'd find a way when it comes to our directors.

 
Other clubs on the continent seem to be fine to choose a high valuation and stick to it. Look at the eye watering fee Liverpool just paid to Frankfurt. Look what we forked out for Fernandez. Look what we had to pay for Lukaku. There are countless examples.

The issue is that European clubs always try and rinse English clubs for top dollar when selling, whilst paying bargain basement fees when buying. I for one will be happy if clearlake play hardball and demand top dollar. We should not be pushovers.
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The sentiment is fine. However the application is flawed when we take into account that European clubs are either generally broke or are purely there to sell players only. Dortmund are a fine example. Have had tens and tens of millions. Never bought a player, unless bargain basement Europe to Europe. Everything is on a loan with an option that will never be exercised

 
Veiga situation is pretty straight forward. Maresca assessed and tried to play him. He didn't look good. He didn't play. He wanted to leave. Simple, done.

Some said Maresca should play him more? The more Maresca tried to play player that is not good the more you will say that Maresca problem is tactic and coaching.

 
The issue is that European clubs always try and rinse English clubs for top dollar when selling, whilst paying bargain basement fees when buying. I for one will be happy if clearlake play hardball and demand top dollar. We should not be pushovers.
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The issue is actually that European clubs don't have any money to spend by virtue of the fact that only England has both a prosperous and equitable TV deal. It creates a reality where other clubs don't need to buy nearly as much as we need to sell - supply and demand, etc.

The only way we can get decent fees is to sell to Saudi, rivals in England (Newcastle, Arsenal), PSG, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid. That's the sum total of our options if we want to make a profit on these players and the biggest risk of both Emenalo's 'loan army' strategy and the similar Clearlake model.

 
The issue is actually that European clubs don't have any money to spend by virtue of the fact that only England has both a prosperous and equitable TV deal. It creates a reality where other clubs don't need to buy nearly as much as we need to sell - supply and demand, etc.

The only way we can get decent fees is to sell to Saudi, rivals in England (Newcastle, Arsenal), PSG, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid. That's the sum total of our options if we want to make a profit on these players and the biggest risk of both Emenalo's 'loan army' strategy and the similar Clearlake model.
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This.

If you want "big" transfer money you have to sell them to top 8 in pl and to those team that you mentioned.

You can play hardball all you want, if the interest doesn't come from this few teams you won't get the money that you want.

 
This.

If you want "big" transfer money you have to sell them to top 8 in pl and to those team that you mentioned.

You can play hardball all you want, if the interest doesn't come from this few teams you won't get the money that you want.
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Just looked at the 25/26 Transfers so far:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/saisontransfers#google_vignette

Have to scroll down to #17 to find a club not on that list paying over €40m, Baena to Atletico Madrid. Next best is Leverkusen who have spent 70m on two players but are obviously flush with income this window lol

 
Veiga situation is pretty straight forward. Maresca assessed and tried to play him. He didn't look good. He didn't play. He wanted to leave. Simple, done.

Some said Maresca should play him more? The more Maresca tried to play player that is not good the more you will say that Maresca problem is tactic and coaching.
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Or he could just play him at CB when he Colwill needed a rest...

 
Ahead of Badiashile and probably Hato?

We have too many players 😂
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Badiashile shouts in 2025

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Hato hasn't signed yet, this was talking about last season.

 
What does this even mean?

Just play Gusto as an over traditional full back like we saw against PSG.
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Try to comeup with a lineup without James n Lavia +gusto as traditional fb

 
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Try to comeup with a lineup without James n Lavia +gusto as traditional fb
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Just have Enzo sit in the pivot with Caicedo and not crash the box.

Gusto was inverting into the half space the majority of the time anyway, which isn't different from playing as a traditional full back.

 
Then why did he insist on inverting Gusto all season? Lazy excuse.
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Because Gusto is robust out of possession.

People ignore that while Maresca is a mad scientist regarding build-up and woke in and out of possession shapes with inverted strikers and overlapping goalkeepers, he's still a manager that builds his team from the concept of how they're going to set up without the football.

While Gusto might not be the most comfortable in central areas on the ball, he's still fast and strong and good at man marking out of possession. He wins the ball back and is fantastic apart of the press. He just asks him to not be a liability on the ball and get it to Caicedo / Palmer / Enzo so we can move forward.

I believe the vision with Hato is the same. Strong kid, who's probably a bit better with the ball than Gusto, but will be able to fill into his formation defensively and with the high pressing seamlessly.

 
Because Gusto is robust out of possession.

People ignore that while Maresca is a mad scientist regarding build-up and woke in and out of possession shapes with inverted strikers and overlapping goalkeepers, he's still a manager that builds his team from the concept of how they're going to set up without the football.

While Gusto might not be the most comfortable in central areas on the ball, he's still fast and strong and good at man marking out of possession. He wins the ball back and is fantastic apart of the press. He just asks him to not be a liability on the ball and get it to Caicedo / Palmer / Enzo so we can move forward.

I believe the vision with Hato is the same. Strong kid, who's probably a bit better with the ball than Gusto, but will be able to fill into his formation defensively and with the high pressing seamlessly.
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Gusto and strong in the same sentence pmsl I should have stopped reading after seeing ‘mad scientist’

 
Gusto and strong in the same sentence pmsl I should have stopped reading after seeing ‘mad scientist’
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Physically he is. He's not a frail twink. He's fast and can deal with wingers 1 on 1 in isolation and does a good job. He also covers ground and has a good engine.

We're doing the thing where a player has an obvious flaw and then we use that to exaggerate every attribute. People do it with Sanchez too. He's braindead with the ball at his feet and people use that to say he's a poor shot stopper which is just objectively false.

We had the third best defensive record in the league last season and he was part of that.

Also Maresca is obviously a mad scientist, how many different shapes and orientations did he attempt to play with this past season or even in the CWC? He's also fine tuning and adjusting and trying new things with players in different roles.

 
Physically he is. He's not a frail twink. He's fast and can deal with wingers 1 on 1 in isolation and does a good job. He also covers ground and has a good engine.

We're doing the thing where a player has an obvious flaw and then we use that to exaggerate every attribute. People do it with Sanchez too. He's braindead with the ball at his feet and people use that to say he's a poor shot stopper which is just objectively false.

We had the third best defensive record in the league last season and he was part of that.

Also Maresca is obviously a mad scientist, how many different shapes and orientations did he attempt to play with this past season or even in the CWC? He's also fine tuning and adjusting and trying new things with players in different roles.
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Quite literally everyone unanimously agrees Sanchez is a good shot stopper.

Rage bait used to be believable, this is boring.

 
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Quite literally everyone unanimously agrees Sanchez is a good shot stopper.

Rage bait used to be believable, this is boring.
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I've talked with people leading up to the CWC final that refused to admit Sanchez was a good stop stopper because they mix-up his decision making and mistake proneness with his dominance inside the 18Y box and on set pieces.

I'm still awaiting Mike Penders and hope he pans out because he looks like a rare GK prospect, but it's the same thing with Gusto.

He's robust out of possession and works very hard to win the ball back and combines with Caicedo/Lavia/Enzo in the middle of the park to be legs there to keep our connective press alive.

That matters to Maresca if you weren't aware. Gusto having a limp noodle for leg in the final third and braindead decision making hold him back from being a first name on the team sheet staple like Caicedo and Cucurella are, but he's clearly a player Maresca likes for those very reasons.

Not sure why our fans struggle to understand what Maresca values and what he doesn't.

 
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