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curtis--- said:
would like to hear some stories of that as well. Also, which teams hooligans were involved in the ireland v england friendly in 1995? I don't particularly support the ireland national team as the fans are hypocrites and players are 'plastic paddies' but would be interesting to know?
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I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the clubs with links to British loyalist movements.

Why do you say Ireland fans are hypocrites?

 
Just to comment on the Chelsea smile/smilers thing, I heard about this during the early 90's in my primary school years in South East London, must of been a huge fictional rumour that spread city wide! Was always about 'Chelsea Headhunters' grabbing the opposition fans, and shoving credit cards long ways into somebodies mouth, in turn splitting their cheeks.  :ohmy:  Was never quite sure whether it was a lie or what, although I'm not that clued up on the hooligan side of things.

 
BernardLambourde said:
I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the clubs with links to British loyalist movements.
Why do you say Ireland fans are hypocrites?
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That could be a lot of clubs then. Some of them are hypocrites in my opinion, some of them protest about Irish people supporting 'the queens teams' yet a lot of them don't like the GAA which is actual home grown sport, a lot of their national team players are English and most of them support Celtic, another British team.

 
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curtis--- said:
That could be a lot of clubs then. Some of them are hypocrites in my opinion, some of them protest about Irish people supporting 'the queens teams' yet a lot of them don't like the GAA which is actual home grown sport, a lot of their national team players are English and most of them support Celtic, another British team.
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Yeah I guess.  Chelsea, Millwall, West Ham, Stoke, Newcastle, Luton etc.

Right, I see what you mean.  Yeah, a lot of Ireland fans have made me laugh in the past with their "hate England.....hate England.....I f***ing hate England." 

Then....."Which team do you support?" 

"Manchester United".

 
AlwaysRight said:
Just to comment on the Chelsea smile/smilers thing, I heard about this during the early 90's in my primary school years in South East London, must of been a huge fictional rumour that spread city wide! Was always about 'Chelsea Headhunters' grabbing the opposition fans, and shoving credit cards long ways into somebodies mouth, in turn splitting their cheeks.  :ohmy:  Was never quite sure whether it was a lie or what, although I'm not that clued up on the hooligan side of things.
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I heard that they'd drive round in a blue van (a Bedford Rascal or something like that).....and approach people in the street.  Then they'd ask them a Chelsea related question and if they didn't know the answer, they'd bundle them into the back of the van.

"Excuse me madam.......could you please answer the following question?  What is John Bumstead's starsign?"

"Erm...Virgo?"

"No, sorry......he's a Sagittarius!  In you go!"

Then they'd stick a gold card in their cakehole before kicking them in the b0llocks/fanny so they screamed real hard and the card ripped the sides of their mouth open.  It'd leave them grinning like Dwight Yorke at a gang bang....hence the name 'Chelsea Smilers'.  I also heard that they'd then squeeze Jif lemon juice or pour Sarsons vinegar into the wounds.  Bring it back I say.

 
BernardLambourde said:
I heard that they'd drive round in a blue van (a Bedford Rascal or something like that).....and approach people in the street.  Then they'd ask them a Chelsea related question and if they didn't know the answer, they'd bundle them into the back of the van."Excuse me madam.......could you please answer the following question?  What is John Bumstead's starsign?"

"Erm...Virgo?"

"No, sorry......he's a Sagittarius!  In you go!"

Then they'd stick a gold card in their cakehole before kicking them in the b0llocks/fanny so they screamed real hard and the card ripped the sides of their mouth open.  It'd leave them grinning like Dwight Yorke at a gang bang....hence the name 'Chelsea Smilers'.  I also heard that they'd then squeeze Jif lemon juice or pour Sarsons vinegar into the wounds.  Bring it back I say.
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You do realise that if there was any truth in this the people doing it woud now be corpulent 50-year-olds in replica football shirts don't you?

I used to hang about with one of the top boys in the Headhunters and if he'd have had a credit Card he'd have been more likely to get a round in than poke it in a random persons face.

 
Chippy said:
You do realise that if there was any truth in this the people doing it woud now be corpulent 50-year-olds in replica football shirts don't you?
I used to hang about with one of the top boys in the Headhunters and if he'd have had a credit Card he'd have been more likely to get a round in than poke it in a random persons face.
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Not necessarily.  They could be 'eternal lads' in their designer sports casual gear.

Which one was that then?  Jason 'know-warra-mean?' Marriner?  Andy 'Nightmare' Frain?  Chris 'Chubby Chubster' Henderson?  Stevie 'Eats Yer Kids' Jenkinson? (I made that last one up)

 
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BernardLambourde said:
Not necessarily.  They could be 'eternal lads' in their designer sports casual gear.
Which one was that then?  Jason 'know-warra-mean?' Marriner?  Andy 'Nightmare' Frain?  Chris 'Chubby Chubster' Henderson?  Stevie 'Eats Yer Kids' Jenkinson? (I made that last one up)
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I don't want to get into names, he was one of the top boys in the eighties and nineties but I don't see him nowadays and I'm not sure if hes still involved.

Really never come across the smiley thing though.

 
Chippy said:
I don't want to get into names, he was one of the top boys in the eighties and nineties but I don't see him nowadays and I'm not sure if hes still involved.Really never come across the smiley thing though.
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I doubt there was any truth in it.  Sounds like some urban myth that got exaggerated more and more.

 
BernardLambourde said:
I doubt there was any truth in it.  Sounds like some urban myth that got exaggerated more and more.
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I'd never heard of it until I read it in this thread...wild imaginations or Media driven space filling junk I'd imagine.

 
I've heard of it but if the older lads on here think it's a myth I'm going to take it as a myth.

 
bluegraham said:
I've heard of it but if the older lads on here think it's a myth I'm going to take it as a myth.
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I used to see quite a few people at games with scars consistent with the smiler. However nothing to suggest that they originated from our fans. In fact I'd go along with Bluebeard's comment that the scousers, spuds and Hammers (to name a few) may have been perpetrators of this practice.
 
curtis--- said:
would like to hear some stories of that as well. Also, which teams hooligans were involved in the ireland v england friendly in 1995? I don't particularly support the ireland national team as the fans are hypocrites and players are 'plastic paddies' but would be interesting to know?
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Every Ireland v England game had fighting between fans before & after in the streets ect, the infamous game in 95 had a few different reasons why it went off like it did, firstly the Irish FA refused to play our national anthem, England fans sang it themselves to which the irish booed, then there was chants of IRA IRA ect, it was always going to go off & once Ireland scored that was it.

While i dont like innocents getting caught up in the trouble & being hurt, especially kids but its hard to feel sympathy towards certain people who openly support(ed) a terrorist group who had killed & maimed British citezens which included women & children on our streets.

There was numerous firms involved, most of the big hitters but also plenty of smaller clubs firms, like Stockport/Oxford to name a couple.

 
Carshalton Blue said:
Every Ireland v England game had fighting between fans before & after in the streets ect, the infamous game in 95 had a few different reasons why it went off like it did, firstly tihe Irish FA refused to play our national anthem, England fans sang it themselves to which the irish booed, then there was chants of IRA IRA ect, it was always going to go off & once Ireland scored that was it.

While i dont like innocents getting caught up in the trouble & being hurt, especially kids but its hard to feel sympathy towards certain people who openly support(ed) a terrorist group who had killed & maimed British citezens which included women & children on our streets.

There was numerous firms involved, most of the big hitters but also plenty of smaller clubs firms, like Stockport/Oxford to name a couple.
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Let's be honest it was a stupid friendly to play in the first place my mate who was a season ticket holder at the bridge at the told me it was a main taking point at the bridge amongst lots of Chelsea fans and I'm sure other fans up and down the country before the game was plyed. England wanted trouble and to be fair it was obvious it would kick off. So what do the fai do they put England fans in the upper tier with wooden seats its crazy stuff. It was always going to be a high risk game how the fai let the England fans in the upper tier is beyond me. I was in the stand opposite it was scary threw the eyes of a young child. I blame the fai. Idiots

 
BernardLambourde said:
I heard that they'd drive round in a blue van (a Bedford Rascal or something like that).....and approach people in the street.  Then they'd ask them a Chelsea related question and if they didn't know the answer, they'd bundle them into the back of the van.

"Excuse me madam.......could you please answer the following question?  What is John Bumstead's starsign?"

"Erm...Virgo?"

"No, sorry......he's a Sagittarius!  In you go!"

Then they'd stick a gold card in their cakehole before kicking them in the b0llocks/fanny so they screamed real hard and the card ripped the sides of their mouth open.  It'd leave them grinning like Dwight Yorke at a gang bang....hence the name 'Chelsea Smilers'.  I also heard that they'd then squeeze Jif lemon juice or pour Sarsons vinegar into the wounds.  Bring it back I say.
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Utter bo**ocks if you ask me , think you been either been eating to many wine gums or  reading  to many  fiction books

 
BernardLambourde said:
Don't shoot the messenger Rumpole!  That was the word on the street!
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Says the man from DelMonte  only fart arsing about with you frenchy  but you want to hear all the war stories  i been told!!   that's why i never talk about (chinese whispers) stuff like that in here, mind you i been in quite a few battles  myself   Won many Lost a few

 
AlwaysRight said:
Just to comment on the Chelsea smile/smilers thing, I heard about this during the early 90's in my primary school years in South East London, must of been a huge fictional rumour that spread city wide! Was always about 'Chelsea Headhunters' grabbing the opposition fans, and shoving credit cards long ways into somebodies mouth, in turn splitting their cheeks.  :ohmy:  Was never quite sure whether it was a lie or what, although I'm not that clued up on the hooligan side of things.
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LOL what school would that be 

 
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