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West Ham United vs Chelsea (PL) Sat 21st Sep 24 12:30 GMT

Spurs keeper juggles the ball outside the box , ref doesn't see it.

For some obscure reason VAR is unable to intervene

Hope it's us on next FFS.

 
Zeta said:
Perhaps a strange take, but despite the 3-0 win, thought we were pretty poor. The game had a weird tempo from both teams that was just slow and careless, with so many misplaced passes, and our goals on the break were hardly at break neck speed, but West Ham seemed to be moving through treacle. Felt like after we got the 2nd, we were struggling to control the game at all, and it all got quite scrappy at times. 

Jackson must have had his lucky pants on though, cos he never scores 1-on-1s and he scored 2, and actually made a good pass during a break away for an assist. Let's see if he can do it again.

Caicedo probably MOTM for me.
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Ah thats the Zeta we all know and love. Come back with a vengeance to wrestle the crown of most negative poster off me once more.

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POCH OUT said:
We have to win our next two games against Brighton and Forest, then its abreak…then the real test Liverpool (a), Newcastle (h), Man utd (a), Arsenal (h)
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Home games vs low block? See if Maresca can Crack that.

After that Newcastle and Man U we need to win. Anything off Pool and Arsenal is a bonus, they are levels ahead of us 

 
Zeta said:
Perhaps a strange take, but despite the 3-0 win, thought we were pretty poor. The game had a weird tempo from both teams that was just slow and careless, with so many misplaced passes, and our goals on the break were hardly at break neck speed, but West Ham seemed to be moving through treacle. Felt like after we got the 2nd, we were struggling to control the game at all, and it all got quite scrappy at times. 

Jackson must have had his lucky pants on though, cos he never scores 1-on-1s and he scored 2, and actually made a good pass during a break away for an assist. Let's see if he can do it again.

Caicedo probably MOTM for me.
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I think you are not used to watch press bait system and west ham playing this way. 

 
Finally watched. 
 

my god is our style of football awful to watch… yes winning is nice but the progress the ball to edge of the box then pass it back 15 times before repeating is just terrible.

my wife watched as much as she could (still plays women’s league) first comment was how it looks like we’re just doing passing drills all game.

glad we won, and sometimes nice to have a boring day at the office

 
Simple analysis

Defense 

Good performance overall. We played mid block that turn into low block at times. Even when Kudus can do whatever he want, It is very easy for our defender to deal with bowen (not a st) and summerville (tiny) in the box. 

Offense 

Good performance. We created chances mostly on the break and press bait. Lopete's West ham is the perfect opp to play this way. It is rare to see teams who are this unathletic in PL and still push up.

@Zeta@Zeta this is why the game felt very strange. Even when our counter was not lighting quick, we got through them easily. West ham pivot and cb are slower without the ball than our player with the ball. 

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Jackson scored from here. You expect those two player close to Jackson to cut off Jackson easily but

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Jackson ran unopposed 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫. 

Player wise

Caicedo and Jackson were clearly the two standout performer. Caicedo was very good at covering and winning the ball, jackson had 2 goals and 1 assist. 

Palmer, welcome to superstar club, team will kick the $h!t of you. 

One interesting player is Sancho. Sancho ball retention give us a very good balance which is one of our problem lasr season 

 
Great result from a fixture that has been tough for us in recent years. Off the back of the Bournemouth game we now have something to build on and it was nice to briefly see us second in the table too. Certainly some room for optimism!

 
The Rising Sun said:
Spurs keeper juggles the ball outside the box , ref doesn't see it.

For some obscure reason VAR is unable to intervene

Hope it's us on next FFS.
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Watching it this morning and wondered the same thing! Gave me flashbacks of Martínez in the FA Cup Final (Taylor's second medal).

 
H2SO4aq said:
Finally watched. 
 

my god is our style of football awful to watch… yes winning is nice but the progress the ball to edge of the box then pass it back 15 times before repeating is just terrible.

my wife watched as much as she could (still plays women’s league) first comment was how it looks like we’re just doing passing drills all game.

glad we won, and sometimes nice to have a boring day at the office
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I haven't like the way we play at times since Potter, but have to disagree on that yesterday. We countered really well and passed the ball with a lot more purpose - always looking for the forward pass.

There is no doubt on our day we have the players to cause opponents a lot of issues and we now have very decent options from the bench so hopefully that overpassing just for passing sake will become a thing of the past.

 
H2SO4aq said:
Finally watched. 
 

my god is our style of football awful to watch… yes winning is nice but the progress the ball to edge of the box then pass it back 15 times before repeating is just terrible.

my wife watched as much as she could (still plays women’s league) first comment was how it looks like we’re just doing passing drills all game.

glad we won, and sometimes nice to have a boring day at the office
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That was because we scored early in the game. That isnt what happened in the wolves game

 
The Boehly Babes said:
West Ham are a great example of why sometimes what you’ve got is good enough. Moyes had them reaching heights they never have in my lifetime. They wanted more, thought they were better and have become much much worse. 
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It was mutual. Moyes wanted out. 

 
https://www.westhamzone.com/news/henry-winter-stunned-by-bizarre-west-ham-united-v-chelsea-incident-as-ex-fifa-man-reacts/

pity Henry didn't bring up consistency when Palmer was hacked down in first 2 minutes compared to bookings against Bournemouth, or what about the incident in the Tottenham game yesterday, the keeper clearly handles the ball outside of his area, Brentford players quite rightly want the freekick and at least a yellow card for the keeper, yet the ref decides to book a Brentford player and the manager

 
Nibs said:
I haven't like the way we play at times since Potter, but have to disagree on that yesterday. We countered really well and passed the ball with a lot more purpose - always looking for the forward pass.

There is no doubt on our day we have the players to cause opponents a lot of issues and we now have very decent options from the bench so hopefully that overpassing just for passing sake will become a thing of the past.
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It all depend whether you like press bait football. 

 
Just boot the thing forward with more talented players and entertain us… not hard concept

 
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