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Why does the PL need this group to referee? No issues signing foreign players. Why not seek out higher performing referees and bring them in. The current organization has demonstrated they aren’t fit for the job. 

 
PhilH930 said:
Why does the PL need this group to referee? No issues signing foreign players. Why not seek out higher performing referees and bring them in. The current organization has demonstrated they aren’t fit for the job. 
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Where from? There are a handful of unquestionably good refs  in the world.  

 
icecoolguy22 said:
So where is the apology to Chelsea ? I didn't see it in that article, maybe it's he sent it via mail 🙄

It's unbelievable, you are paid to watch the goal ( with other video refs) and somehow managed to miss it completely. It's incident ( deliberate) like that makes me think AI VAR is the way to go, at least when computer f* it up it's just random.
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Unbelievable isn't it ... 

The technology works well. The problem is (some of) the bell ends sat in front of the TV screens ... 

I'd like to see AI draw the "offside" lines, but the bigger problem with offsides is the daft idea in the rules of a finger tip (or other non-footballing part of the body) being a significant factor in an offside call

 
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Backbiter said:
It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored. 
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Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.

 
Backbiter said:
It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored. 
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Probable red card too

 
forbzy said:
Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.
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Its violent conduct so pretty much trumps most other decisions currently on the pitch.

 
forbzy said:
Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.
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Yeah I understand your point but the rules are if a red card is issued then the team gets the free kick. So a corner would be overturned in this instance. 

 
Absolutely unbelievabe.

What a d**khead, he should have done the right thing at the time , instead he's looking out for his mate ?

f**k off

 
It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

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Backbiter said:
Yes, the paywalled Telegraph have published Dean's astounding confession of match-fixing, to spare his mate Taylor from having Ng to take a look at the monitor.

"Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to intervene on a major VAR call because he didn’t want to cause his friend Anthony Taylor any ‘grief’, he has revealed.

In a remarkably candid admission, Dean said he made the “pathetic” call at the climax of the 2-2 draw between Tottenham and Chelsea last August.

Cristian Romero pulled Marc Cucurella’s hair seconds before Harry Kane’s 96th minute equaliser, and Dean acknowledged that in the heat of the moment he made a bad choice not to suggest on-field official Taylor consider a sending off offence.

“I missed the stupid hair pull at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of view,” Dean told Up Front with Simon Jordan.

“It’s one of them where if I had my time again, what would I do? I’d send Anthony [Taylor] to the screen. I think I knew if I did send him to the screen … he’s cautioned both managers, he’s had a hell of a game, it’s been such a tough game end to end.

“I said to Anthony afterwards: ‘I just didn’t want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game’. I didn’t want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn’t want to send him up because I didn’t want any more grief than he already had.

“Anthony, he is big and bald and ugly enough to know if he is going to the screen he is going to the screen for a reason. If someone pulls their hair now it’s dead easy. It’s just a brainwave by me, a really bad call by me, and it kind of affected me as VAR going forward.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/24/mike-dean-anthony-taylor-video-assistant-referee-tottenham/

One of the bigger refereeing scandals English football has seen, but it won't be reported as such.
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I don't know what is going on in the premier league but if an official in the NFL admitted to missing a call just cause he didn't feel like making the call or because it might make a friend look bad, that official would be fired.  And while I don't think it would go this far, there would be calls for them to be criminally prosecuted for match fixing.  

And lord knows the NFL isn't full of saints but you couldn't make an admission like that and keep your job.  

It is unfathomable to me that Mike Dean still has a job.    

 
Valpo said:
I don't know what is going on in the premier league but if an official in the NFL admitted to missing a call just cause he didn't feel like making the call or because it might make a friend look bad, that official would be fired.  And while I don't think it would go this far, there would be calls for them to be criminally prosecuted for match fixing.  

And lord knows the NFL isn't full of saints but you couldn't make an admission like that and keep your job.  

It is unfathomable to me that Mike Dean still has a job.    
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Not to nitpick, but he doesn't have a job. Other than being a pundit for sky sports occasionally. 

 
Munkunku said:
It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

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I was having a good day, now I'm all pissed off about a match that took place a year ago.  And I keep having this probably inaccurate belief that had the outcome of that been different perhaps the outcome of the season would have been different.  

 
bisright1 said:
Not to nitpick, but he doesn't have a job. Other than being a pundit for sky sports occasionally. 
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I thought he still did VAR but he apparently has retired from that too.

Good riddance.  

 
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Munkunku said:
It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

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An embarrassment.

Firstly, they don't understand the meaning of the word 'refute', which requires evidence that undermines or disproves the claim (they don't provide it). They may deny or dispute it, but they have failed to refute it.

Secondly, the 'suggestion' that VARs don't intervene when they identify a clear and obvious error is an actual public confession by a high-profile referee with some 20 years experience in the Premier League. That's a hell of a lot more than a 'suggestion'. 

 
Valpo said:


I was having a good day, now I'm all pissed off about a match that took place a year ago.  And I keep having this probably inaccurate belief that had the outcome of that been different perhaps the outcome of the season would have been different.  
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Just take a deep breath and remember it’s a game for children. 

 
Laughable PGMOL .. can’t believe in the 21st century we have such old boys club.. you scratch my back I will scratch yours..

 
Jangz said:
Laughable PGMOL .. can’t believe in the 21st century we have such old boys club.. you scratch my back I will scratch yours..
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That's an unbelievable response from the PGMOL ... they can f**k off on the same goat that Dean is riding out of town on ... 

"We strongly refute any suggestion that VARs do not intervene, for whatever reason, when they have identified a clear and obvious error."

w**kers. 

They should have chastised Dean and apologised profusely to us ... 

 
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