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Antonio Rudiger

Stayed off this place for a while, and i think i might have to have another hiatus. 1L, 3D, and all of a sudden some people are already concerned about the future. 

We have one of the youngest most exciting squads in europe, loads of key players with 5-10 years ahead of them.

So what if we lose a couple of players, iys not like prime JT, Carvalho, and Cole are leaving, Rudiger has had his ups and downs, Christiensen has flaw that will likely never entirely leave his game, Azpi has been a fantastic servant, but is on a downward curve, and Thiago Silva is immense, but he is 37! 

We have Chalobah already coming through, we have Colwill captaining the england u21's, we have a buy back clause on guehi, we have one the highest rated youngsters in europe in Kounde that wants to come here, and we are also blessed with an owner that will spend big money.

We might not win the league this year, but with Tuchel in charge, Roman back in the stands, we are building something strong that will compete for titles. 

 
coco said:
Yes but if it means Tuchel gets to build his own team i would be much happier knowing we have a manager we can trust to identify who he needs.
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Me too, I really think people are overestimating how difficult it will be to replace Toni and AC. It would not be cheap but come on stop acting like they Terry and flippin Maldini.

We already have someone younger and better than AC in Trev. Who is to say this time next year Levi Colwill is not having many of us say Toni who? Our academy is producing some real gems this is a great time to be a Chelsea fan and see them come through.

 
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Sindre said:
We should have given Rudiger the 200k he wants a week ages ago. We have far less important players on more than that already so it's not going to mess up our wage structure as it's already messed up.

It's a few extra millions over the course of a contract. Replacing him outright when we get no money for him? Going to cost a fortune. Let's say we buy Kounde for his £77 million release clause, then wages on top of that and you have no guarantees he'll work out either. So that's a £100 million + gamble instead of investing a bit more in someone who we know can perform in our current system.
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Was it 200k or 400k he's after? I don't pretend knowing all the money figure  being talked about, but if it's only 200k it be done at the end of last season, he's after a final big pay day, doubt it's any where around that 200k figure. He's probably looking at Alaba  and think I could get the same at Real, just wait it out for a few months. Just like Courtois few years ago ( who claimed he never got time to discuss a contract renewal ), he's made his mind up before the start of the season, anything he or his people says just divert attention.

 
Its clear to see that the contract situation has impacted our performances and has destabilized the squad along with the injuries and excessive rotation. Rudi's older errors crept back in the last few games which would have been ok had AC also not gone back to his shell. Add to that our back option in Malang Sarr wouldnt make the starting 11 in a championship 11 is a bit of a cause for concern.

i dont think AC or Rudi are going to sign a new contract and we must start planning for this reality now. A few weeks back i thought AC would but now looks unlikely plus he still looks lost when he is asked to lead the defence. May i say Chalobah has been much better and its really sad about his injury.

On TT's part we could do with a little less rotation - too much rotation in the team for my liking is really killing the rhythm of the team and dare i say the players too.

 
icecoolguy22 said:
Was it 200k or 400k he's after? I don't pretend knowing all the money figure  being talked about, but if it's only 200k it be done at the end of last season, he's after a final big pay day, doubt it's any where around that 200k figure. He's probably looking at Alaba  and think I could get the same at Real, just wait it out for a few months. Just like Courtois few years ago ( who claimed he never got time to discuss a contract renewal ), he's made his mind up before the start of the season, anything he or his people says just divert attention.
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Hard to know with the press what is true and what is not, however you Alaba point seems bang on as the latest is he will be making thst sort of money, just under 400k a week, at Real. 

Terms verbally agreed between Toni's brother ans Real ahead of a Pre contract is the latest reports.

 
RMH said:
The news about the contract negotiations are that there are no news…

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/12/10/-we-need-a-bit-of-patience----tuchel-on-rudiger-contract-latest
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Hard for TT to say anything else. Am sure he knows Toni is off and likely has a pre contract ready to sign but cannot say anything till it is official.

Then when it is he can Trott out the "they are a great club, made him an important offer, new challange, he will give his upmost for the rest of the season" etc etc.

He has already started to have his focus split imo and am sure, if given a choice to stay here or join his new club in January, he would pick the latter every time.

 
He went steaming in the second there were handbags after the final whistle - pay him what he wants.

 
Saved us with his theatrics. The ref will never give proper fouls and penalties if he didn't go down. 

Raphinha and Klich made silly errors and rightfully punished

 
I think it's hard to find true warriors like Rudiger in the modern era of football. Players who will go to war for their managers and team. He fights for the badge and I'm genuinely surprised if £140k is all that we have on the table for him if reports are to be believed.

I'd say give him £200k a week at his age he's set to be heading into his prime anyway. He knows the league, system and coach. The only reason I'd consider letting him go is if we will switch to a back 4.

If Andreas won't sign the new contract keep Rudi and go in for Koundé in Jan. No reason in delaying we should have signed him in the summer considering the current contract situation. Now we're being held at ransome and any team we do business for a defender will know what's up. 

Back to Rudi, his preference is to stay and teams like Bayern, Psg and Real are interested. Does that not say it all? Were he an attacker playing at the level he was at until recently we probably would have resign him last summer. He's not always been world class but since January he has and I'd like to keep as much as this ucl winning squad intact as possible. 

 
PloKoon13 said:
He went steaming in the second there were handbags after the final whistle - pay him what he wants.
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Loved that and would like him to stay but sounds like his deal to real is already agreed. 

Dont worry we will find a replacement.

 
Rudi da boss

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While Toni's desire and general behavior has rightly been lauded on here, let's not only point out Alonso as at fault for a goal as it was Toni chasing after Leeds in to midfield and leaving his spot at the back that allowed the Leeds sub to run behind Silva unchecked.

 
axman2526 said:
While Toni's desire and general behavior has rightly been lauded on here, let's not only point out Alonso as at fault for a goal as it was Toni chasing after Leeds in to midfield and leaving his spot at the back that allowed the Leeds sub to run behind Silva unchecked.
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The ref should have blown up for a foul on Callum, it was clear as day he was being held in a bear hug, i mean wtf is the ref seeing there in that not being a foul ?

 
coco said:
The ref should have blown up for a foul on Callum, it was clear as day he was being held in a bear hug, i mean wtf is the ref seeing there in that not being a foul ?
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Lol commentators called it a 50/50 😄 

 
axman2526 said:
While Toni's desire and general behavior has rightly been lauded on here, let's not only point out Alonso as at fault for a goal as it was Toni chasing after Leeds in to midfield and leaving his spot at the back that allowed the Leeds sub to run behind Silva unchecked.
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Exactly this.  You could see how frustrated he was at the lack of decision, and chased the man and ball.  Leeds passed 3 or 4 times through 4-5 Chelsea players who were static, and once going, we were all out of place.  Still, he redeemed himself with two penalty assists.

 
PhilH930 said:
Exactly this.  You could see how frustrated he was at the lack of decision, and chased the man and ball.  Leeds passed 3 or 4 times through 4-5 Chelsea players who were static, and once going, we were all out of place.  Still, he redeemed himself with two penalty assists.
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We’re forgetting the blatant foul on CHO during this passage of play that was completely ignored by the referee. Rudiger wouldn’t have been running around the midfield if that was actually given. 

 
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Munkworth said:
We’re forgetting the blatant foul on CHO during this passage of play that was completely ignored by the referee. Rudiger wouldn’t have been running around the midfield if that was actually given. 
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I don't disagree, but the lack of measure in the reaction created gaps.  A lot still had to happen, but would Silva go chasing like that?  It was a foul though.

 
PhilH930 said:
I don't disagree, but the lack of measure in the reaction created gaps.  A lot still had to happen, but would Silva go chasing like that?  It was a foul though.
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Silva wouldn’t because he’s a million years old and he needs to manage his legs  :wink:

 
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