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EdinburghBlue said:
In terms of Christensen being a liability, the same could be said of Zouma when he goes charging almost Luiz-esque to win a ball he doesn’t need to.

That’s what used to lead to his last ditch tackles a lot of the time before, fortunately he’s athletic enough to get back. 

I’m sure Frank will assess them all equally but I’d like to see luiz used more in a JT leader under Conte role with a bit more game time.

I’d go with:

1. Rudiger

2. Christensen

3. Zouma

4. Luiz/Ampadu

5. Tomori (send on loan to a PL team).
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Yea but suicide passes at CL level and other unforgivable mistakes, it’s hard to fully trust him.

Zouma has no clue where he is positionally but he doesnt panic like Christensen and he is brilliant at recovering  when he makes a mistake, hard call but if zouma can get some tactical discipline he is far the superior athlete. 

 
WalterWhiteCFC said:
Yea but suicide passes at CL level and other unforgivable mistakes, it’s hard to fully trust him.

Zouma has no clue where he is positionally but he doesnt panic like Christensen and he is brilliant at recovering  when he makes a mistake, hard call but if zouma can get some tactical discipline he is far the superior athlete. 
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Still think the 'suicide pass' is as much on Fabregas than it was Christensen. 

Zouma doesn't panic because he has no sense of danger, a man could run straight at him and he wouldn't sense danger until he has gone past and he has to chase him 500 yards back to make a last ditch challenge. Christensen is far ahead of Zouma when it comes to making it at a team of Chelsea's level. 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Still think the 'suicide pass' is as much on Fabregas than it was Christensen. 

Zouma doesn't panic because he has no sense of danger, a man could run straight at him and he wouldn't sense danger until he has gone past and he has to chase him 500 yards back to make a last ditch challenge. Christensen is far ahead of Zouma when it comes to making it at a team of Chelsea's level. 
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Going on the incredibly optimistic version of this, its is similar to JT and Carva, Carva would charge in but had enough pace to get himself out of trouble and could get a great last ditch tackle in. JT would read the game but occasionally get skinned for pace...

If Zooms and Chris can become half the partnership of JT and Carva then I will be happy

 
Bonzodog29 said:
Going on the incredibly optimistic version of this, its is similar to JT and Carva, Carva would charge in but had enough pace to get himself out of trouble and could get a great last ditch tackle in. JT would read the game but occasionally get skinned for pace...

If Zooms and Chris can become half the partnership of JT and Carva then I will be happy
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Rudiger and Christensen for me. Rudiger is more of a fine tuned Zouma in my eyes.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Still think the 'suicide pass' is as much on Fabregas than it was Christensen. 

Zouma doesn't panic because he has no sense of danger, a man could run straight at him and he wouldn't sense danger until he has gone past and he has to chase him 500 yards back to make a last ditch challenge. Christensen is far ahead of Zouma when it comes to making it at a team of Chelsea's level. 
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Can’t really disagree much I just think zouma can be coached into a decent CB he looked good under Jose before his injury 

 
Rudiger and Christensen or Rudiger and Zouma will be the pairings. I really hope Tomori is given the chance as well. He looked really shaky in the Pre-season though.

Zouma will get better but his ceiling is not far from what he has been for a couple of years. Managers trust him because his physical attributes are there. He just isn't a very clever footballer. But we have use of him. He is quite experienced and still young. Still he made 3 massive errors in the game. That naturally is a worry.

 
Munkworth said:
Playing tonight with Batshauyi for the U23s. Free to watch on the app. 
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Looks like Kenedy is out there too... 

edit -- actually, it's not Kenedy... he's wearing #10, and running the show up top. Similar build, movement style, haircut and skin tone... 

don't know who it is, but I like him...

second edit...

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/teams/academy/tino-anjorin

Tino Anjorin... looks so much like Kenedy on the pitch it's scary... even has his head just forward of his shoulders giving him a leaning look the way kenedy does. Kid can play

 
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Tino Anjorin does look good tonight. I don’t follow the youth much these days so I hadn’t heard of him before. 

Toni with the assist for Batshauyi for the only goal. No youth needed  :laugh2:

 
Skinnedy said:
Looks like Kenedy is out there too... 

edit -- actually, it's not Kenedy... he's wearing #10, and running the show up top. Similar build, movement style, haircut and skin tone... 

don't know who it is, but I like him...

second edit...

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/teams/academy/tino-anjorin

Tino Anjorin... looks so much like Kenedy on the pitch it's scary... even has his head just forward of his shoulders giving him a leaning look the way kenedy does. Kid can play
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Munkworth said:
Tino Anjorin does look good tonight. I don’t follow the youth much these days so I hadn’t heard of him before. 

Toni with the assist for Batshauyi for the only goal. No youth needed  :laugh2:
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Anjorin just scored a pretty fantastic goal.  Agreed, he looks to be a player.

 
Munkworth said:
Tino Anjorin does look good tonight. I don’t follow the youth much these days so I hadn’t heard of him before. 

Toni with the assist for Batshauyi for the only goal. No youth needed  :laugh2:
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Anjorin just scored a good goal, he's a big unit too. Looks a very good prospect. 

 
Just saw the first 5 mins of the match and the commentators were going on about Anjorin and what an exciting prospect he is. He’s a big unit and only 17.

How’d  the  game finish?

 
Heard Anjorin's dad on a podcast last week. Very interesting insight, and he seems to be determined to make here. Pity he is another central midfielder, he has some strong competition from the academy ahead of him in mount, rlc, and gilmour. 

wouldnt be suprised if he got a cameo at the end of the season.

 
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