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Arsenal vs Chelsea (PL) Sunday 6th September 16:30 GMT

I'm so gutted! I really thought us Chelsea would win this. Damm!! I guess that's the life of being a Chelsea fan at the moment. 😞😭

 
A few talking points.

Some poor defensive moments. That will improve as the squad gels.

We had a lot of shots from the edge of the box fly over, right idea, perhaps a bit more shooting practice.

Raya is a brilliant keeper and won them the game, Estevao made a brilliant play and 19 times out of 20 that goes in.

 
Arsenal are the champions and have the best squad in the PL by far, so we certainly didn't disgrace ourselves today. If Estevao had found the top corner late on, we would have come away with a point.

But I am disappointed we didn't get at them more - especially after such a good start. This is where we miss an Essien type player - their midfield had it far too easy. We let Rice run with the ball all game and let Odegard have far too much space and he made it count and was MOTM. We really needed our front three to be on top form but None of them saw enough ball in dangerous areas and I though Pedro came too deep, too often and was fairly easily nulified by the Arsenal defence.

Gutted that Havertz scored again against us and it was a soft goal to concede but their winner was a good, well taken goal.

Hopefully we learn from this and bounce back and go on a good run.
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Pretty much how I saw it.

No need to be upset IMO.

I didn't expect us to win, I just wanted us to compete, and we did.

Midfield is an issue thiough, we really need 2 proper midfielders in there every single match, not defenders converted into midfielders.

Address the midfield in January and I think we'll finish in a Champions League spot, which was the aim at the start of the season.

We are quite a way behind Arsenal and in the end they were the better team.

Got to say every time we touched an Arsenal player it was a free kick but not the other way round unfortunately.

Anyway, beat Hull next week and we'll be back on track.

 
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Pretty much how I saw it.

No need to be upset IMO.

I didn't expect us to win, I just wanted us to compete, and we did.

Midfield is an issue thiough, we really need 2 proper midfielders in there every single match, not defenders converted into midfielders.

Address the midfield in January and I think we'll finish in a Champions League spot, which was the aim at the start of the season.

We are quite a way behind Arsenal and in the end they were the better team.

Got to say every time we touched an arsenal player it was a free kick but not the other way round unfortunately.

Anyway, beat Hull next week and we'll be back on track.
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We competed for the first half, for the second half Arsenal toyed with us.

 
I did not expect to get a result, but wanted us to compete and we did, so not really surprised and in small ways content when you consider there was no Caicedo who would have made a massive difference. Palmer should have came off instead off Rogers imo though. I feel Palmer's reputation kept him on rather than Rogers, who was much more imposing and threatening to the Arsenal defence. Rogers was causing them problems with his running ability and power.

 
Sick and tired of losing to that lot.
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Amen to that mate.

What did Raya have to do today? Not a lot. Should have done much better on our goal Imo. He was asleep, probably as it was off a set piece and they are normally so easy for Arsenal.

People making out the save from Estevao was a top save, it was right above him! Only short arms kepa let's those type of shots in!

He could have pulled out a deck chair the rest of the game. Martinez save from, saka I think it was, was far more difficult than anything Raya faced.

And our defending. While of course Martinez has to save Havertz goal what are we doing showing him inside and just allowing him to come in as far as he wants and have a free shot? Where is the will to keep clean sheet? to throw yourself in the way so Martinez does not even have a save to make? Where is that desire?

We have 3 cbs as well as James and Lavia on the pitch and Odegaard can just jog, not sprint, jog through our team and have all the room in the world around the penalty spot to beat Martinez?! I think some have said it was a good team goal from Arsenal. Are you joking? Imagine if Enzo let Odegaard go like that what the reaction would be? Odegaard is alike watching molasses move.

 
Arsenal are the champions and have the best squad in the PL by far, so we certainly didn't disgrace ourselves today. If Estevao had found the top corner late on, we would have come away with a point.

But I am disappointed we didn't get at them more - especially after such a good start. This is where we miss an Essien type player - their midfield had it far too easy. We let Rice run with the ball all game and let Odegard have far too much space and he made it count and was MOTM. We really needed our front three to be on top form but None of them saw enough ball in dangerous areas and I though Pedro came too deep, too often and was fairly easily nulified by the Arsenal defence.

Gutted that Havertz scored again against us and it was a soft goal to concede but their winner was a good, well taken goal.

Hopefully we learn from this and bounce back and go on a good run.
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I do agree with you, but so much comes form belief and confidence, or the current lack of for us. Arsenal are supremely confident at the moment, they are riding high off of their title win, they only brought in two additional players (one of which was somewhat enforced) which have both slotted into the pattern. Always was going to be a tough ask. If we had of had Liverpool or Man City in that game today we could have given them a bloody nose, because they are also finding their feet. Beat Liverpool, beat Man City and that belief and confidence that we are on the right track would come flooding through us.

We have another chance on Wednesday. Yes its only the Carabou cup but it Leeds United and recently we have so often been the southern softies, pussying out, when clubs like Leeds come after us. We need a strong performance and a significant win that breathes that confidence and belief into the team. Then we can start gaining some momentum.

 
Apparently he does not want to play wing-back and does not want to bulk up any more. I’ve heard the same from the brazilian press.

Think he can only play in place of Cole or Rogers, or sub Neto in the second half when chasing a goal.
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Why not try playing Palmer or Roger’s as the attacking midfielder behind Pedro and play Steveo up front

 
I agree, but come January we must make two additions and do it early and large. We must get the box to box creative midfielder and we must get a top level CB, for depth.
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Why can’t Palmer or Roger’s play in that Role, especially Palmer who come deep anyway

 
Why can’t Palmer or Roger’s play in that Role, especially Palmer who come deep anyway
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Most of the goals we have conceded so far have been because of playing ghosting in behind then and them not tracking their men. There has to be some defensive discipline, even in the box to box midfielder.

 
And Arsenal have got a Champions League game away to Napoli during the week. Didn't seem to be on their minds today at all

 
Most of the goals we have conceded so far have been because of playing ghosting in behind then and them not tracking their men. There has to be some defensive discipline, even in the box to box midfielder.
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Careful, some may take that as you asking Rogers and Palmer to actually defend properly.

I do agree with you, but so much comes form belief and confidence, or the current lack of for us. Arsenal are supremely confident at the moment, they are riding high off of their title win, they only brought in two additional players (one of which was somewhat enforced) which have both slotted into the pattern. Always was going to be a tough ask. If we had of had Liverpool or Man City in that game today we could have given them a bloody nose, because they are also finding their feet. Beat Liverpool, beat Man City and that belief and confidence that we are on the right track would come flooding through us.

We have another chance on Wednesday. Yes its only the Carabou cup but it Leeds United and recently we have so often been the southern softies, pussying out, when clubs like Leeds come after us. We need a strong performance and a significant win that breathes that confidence and belief into the team. Then we can start gaining some momentum.
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Not just Leeds. Yes we need to go long in the cups, especially with no Europe. We also need to beat Hull and Brentford before the break too.

Is pretty easy to defend losing to the champions, spin the positives, be a lot more difficult to do so if we don't beat Hull and/or Brentford.

 
They of course ,were far superior to us and that’s the depressing reality. The margins were there for at least a draw, which makes it more crushing. What hasn’t been as widely mentioned as the kick on Martinez or the Rice foul, was when Konsa lifted up Rogers threw him to the floor, which led to the winner. Despite this, they were so organised and had so much control, I can’t ‘feel’ those injustices in the same way /in context to the game.

The knock-on effect of missing out on Camara instantly felt. Basketball football until that’s sorted, just utilise the front 3 as much as possible.

 
We didn't play our best, but still had our moments. Arsenal were the better team overall, but we didn't disgrace ourselves.

Obviously the issue with our defence and midfield are well-publicised. Alonso will have to find a way to address these issues.

 
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