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Vagabond said:
I'm confused, did we not get a massive reality check like a week ago?

But you're right, who cares. Let's just label our youth players as the new Scholes, Modric and Messi, what could go wrong? Everybody knows there's nothing better for the development of a young talent than to be compared to the absolute best after a single good game.
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What is going to happen now exactly, is Billy the kid going to suddenly stop training because I said that he can end up being our own version of Scholes on a forum that he will probably never ever get to read?

For someone that calls himself a computer scientist implying that he's so rational, you sound like you're in some "don't jinx it please" superstition mood which is the very opposite of how you want to come across as  :laugh2:

 
Gol15 said:
What is going to happen now exactly, is Billy the kid going to suddenly stop training because I said that he can end up being our own version of Scholes on a forum that he will probably never ever get to read?

For someone that calls himself a computer scientist implying that he's so rational, you sound like you're in some "don't jinx it please" superstition mood which is the very opposite of how you want to come across as  :laugh2:
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Oh please. It has nothing to do with superstition and everything to do with struggle and motivation in a highly competitive environment. The chance that Billy will turn into ANY of those players is extremely slim and he will have to struggle every day for years to even come close. Really not that hard to understand.

 
Gilmour looks very good on the ball and reading the game.

Yet to see if he has a long range passing ability or a shooting skill.

Acceleration around the pitch looks average so defensively might be like Jorginho.

Where would we play him, he looks like an Iniesta yet we are not that team.

 
Vagabond said:
Oh please. It has nothing to do with superstition and everything to do with struggle and motivation in a highly competitive environment. The chance that Billy will turn into ANY of those players is extremely slim and he will have to struggle every day for years to even come close. Really not that hard to understand.
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It's only possible for him to become so good while he's growing in the best competitive environment, you will never see a Messi or Pele coming out from a place where there is no competition.

In sports, specially competitive sports, confidence is very important and I see nothing wrong in praising Billy the kid. What he does as an individual is up to him but to have positive feedback after doing well, that's never going to be a reason for him to stop working hard, unless of course it's his own bad attitude to which only he has the responsibility.

 
Gol15 said:
It's only possible for him to become so good while he's growing in the best competitive environment, you will never see a Messi or Pele coming out from a place where there is no competition.

In sports, specially competitive sports, confidence is very important and I see nothing wrong in praising Billy the kid. What he does as an individual is up to him but to have positive feedback after doing well, that's never going to be a reason for him to stop working hard, unless of course it's his own bad attitude to which only he has the responsibility.
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Comparing him to players like Modric and Messi (who was scoring hattricks vs RM @ 19yo) after a single performance may be "positive", but it is bad feedback most of all.

He's nothing like any of those players (yet), which is why the comparisons were all over the place and he was compared to completely different players, but somehow shares characteristics with all of them.

 
Vagabond said:
Comparing him to players like Modric and Messi (who was scoring hattricks vs RM @ 19yo) after a single performance may be "positive", but it is bad feedback most of all.

He's nothing like any of those players (yet), which is why the comparisons were all over the place and he was compared to completely different players, but somehow shares characteristics with all of them.
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OK I see but I compared him to Scholes;

A player that came from the academy, they have that similarity and many more, they play the same position, they are the same height and they weren't/aren't afraid to get in tackles and from what I've seen from Billy he looks like he can pass the ball and isn't afraid of anybody. So it's not bad feedback if there is an already known path that Billy may take on. 

People were saying about Frank Lampard that he's special when he was as young as Billy. Where is the harm?

 
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@Gol15

Didn't you post a meme comparing him to Iniesta too?

Now don't get me wrong, I would be absolutely delighted to be wrong and all of my caution to just be superstition like you say. I would love to have a young Drogba, Scholes, Iniesta, Terry, Ballack Nevin and Robben at CFC that turn into said players in a few years. But if things happened they way I'd like them to happen I wouldn't be so miserable, would I?

Not all people were saying Lamps is special. For some reason the youtube algorithm wants me to watch this video over and over again, so I thought I'll share my happiness here...



Now why do you think Redknapp didn't want to say that Lamps will go "right to the very top" in front of him?

 
Strider6003 said:
Acceleration around the pitch looks average so defensively might be like Jorginho.
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I might trigger a few here, Messi has always lacked acceleration, but when your feet and brain are in perfect symmetry you don't need it. 

And also i thought Billy looked the polar opposite of Jorginho defensively. 

 
Christ this forum is getting ridiculous now. How can people not see the difference between "he plays in a similar way to player xxx" and "hes as good as player xxx", its not being realistic its just someone claiming he sees a resemblance in the style Gilmour plays in to another player, not claiming he`s the bestest player ever... 

Any hint of someone posting something slightly positive is piled on by the usual suspects. Get a grip.

 
bluedave said:
He looks great technically but it’s also good to see him doing the ugly stuff as well and winning tackles and headers. I don’t care about his lack of size, physically he looks comparable to Dennis Wise and he wasn’t afraid to get stuck in.
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Comparing his physicality and stature to Dennis Wise.

Gol15 said:
It's a bit obvious that Billy will be our best midfielder next season, the maturity level in his decision making is so on point. 

He's our version of Scholes in the making right now.
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He's our VERSION of Scholes. Nowehere does he say he's as good as Scholes or going to be.

Ballack & Blu said:
Someone esteemed once told me the way to mark out a great player is to see what there like when a ball is played into them anywhere, because of your touch and spatial awareness, its the thing that marks Messi out, he'll take a ball in any situation, which means players trust you not to lose it, when it is played into you any position Gilmour was like that from the get go.
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Comparing his spacial awareness to that of Messi, once again not comparing him to Messi.

See @Vagabond, no one is comparing him to any great players. Simply stating similarities. 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Saying they have similar characteristics to great players isn't a bad thing. No one is saying he's as good as Scholes or Messi, they're saying they have similarities. 

Did we not get a reality check a few days ago when our 18 year old bossed the current best team in Europe?
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Saying it's obvious that he's going to be our best midfielder next season and that he's our version of Paul Scholes after one game is definitely more than just saying "they have similar characteristics". 

 
Vagabond said:
Now why do you think Redknapp didn't want to say that Lamps will go "right to the very top" in front of him?
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He was his manager at the time, it's a professional to another and he was already under pressure since they are related or what not. He still said it though.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Comparing his physicality and stature to Dennis Wise.

He's our VERSION of Scholes. Nowehere does he say he's as good as Scholes or going to be.

Comparing his spacial awareness to that of Messi, once again not comparing him to Messi.

See @Vagabond, no one is comparing him to any great players. Simply stating similarities. 
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To think his spacial awareness is even close to that of Messi is... ah nevermind. I'm done here.

 
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