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Chelsea v Liverpool (PL) Tue 4th Apr 2023 20:00 GMT

Reading through this thread there is SO much doom and gloom!!  We football fans are a funny bunch - I thought I would bring some positivity, here goes:-

Fact is as a team we are starting to dominate the games and that is the hard part, some of our forward play is exceptional (up to a certain obvious point of course), how a team can out shoot an opponent 27 to 4 and lose 0-2 is pretty incredible in its own right when you think about it BUT it SURELY means that we are 'close' to putting something promising together no?

Kante is back and that is a HUGE positive for any team!  Enzo looks class, and our 'new' signings are starting to 'settle'.

I am still feeling positive about our future......................AS LONG AS WE GIVE OUR NEXT MANAGER TIME!!

 
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Should have won that at least 2-nil last night.

The team selection wasn't exactly brimming with goal scorers. Kante, Fernandez and Kovacic are all basically non-scoring midfielders, and of the three I can only remember Kovacic even getting any touches in their box at any point in the game last night. Don't think Gallagher did either when he came on?  It's always going to be tough if we are essentially relying on only two out of the ten outfield players (Havertz and Felix) for goals, especially those two LOL.

12 shots on goal, 4 for Havertz ; 4 for Felix, 4 for everyone else.

 
Droyman said:
Reading through this thread there is SO much doom and gloom!!  We football fans are a funny bunch - I thought I would bring some positivity, here goes:-

Fact is as a team we are starting to dominate the games and that is the hard part, some of our forward play is exceptional (up to a certain obvious point of course), how a team can out shoot an opponent 27 to 4 and lose 0-2 is pretty incredible in its own right when you think about it BUT it SURELY means that we are 'close' to putting something promising together no?

Kante is back and that is a HUGE positive for any team!  Enzo looks class, and our 'new' signings are starting to 'settle'.

I am still feeling positive about our future......................AS LONG AS WE GIVE OUR NEXT MANAGER TIME!!
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If we were close to putting something together, we would've scored against Liverpool. It's the same old story when it comes to scoring goals and if it does get better, its not going to be at the level required for a club this size. Certain players are holding this team back and need to be moved on.

 
Tbh We Were The Better Team Last Night, But Still We Are Awful, As Stated By Someone Else 39 Shots Last 2 Games And Zero Goals, Can't Just Put That Down To Lack Of A Striker As We Can't Hit A Barn Door With A Banjo

 
Jackson27 said:
Tbh We Were The Better Team Last Night, But Still We Are Awful, As Stated By Someone Else 39 Shots Last 2 Games And Zero Goals, Can't Just Put That Down To Lack Of A Striker As We Can't Hit A Barn Door With A Banjo
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I think we looked ok last night  - problem is there's no one who is relaxed and confident in front of goal now.

Still think he should have changed felix and havenotz after an hour... so they know... if they haven't scored after an hour they're benched.

Half the shots we see are either scuffed, mish*ts and or easy for the opposition goalie.

I like felix but seems to take on one player too many too often.

 
coco said:
Kovacic missed the two best chances, but he seems to get bypassed for criticism.
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That’s because he did the job he is employed for like he usually does. He’s not an attacking midfielder and he rarely gets a chance so it’s not unusual that he misses. 

 
I don't care if you are bloody GK. 

Skying a shot that close to goal for a professional footballer is down right tragic. 

Awful from Kovacic but we know that's his game. Complete player lmao. 

 
BS66 said:
That’s because he did the job he is employed for like he usually does. He’s not an attacking midfielder and he rarely gets a chance so it’s not unusual that he misses. 
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So we should only expect goals from AM and forwards ? Everyone has to chip in, we had 16-17 goal scorers in TT's 2nd season.

 
KonaKai Blue said:
If we were close to putting something together, we would've scored against Liverpool. It's the same old story when it comes to scoring goals and if it does get better, its not going to be at the level required for a club this size. Certain players are holding this team back and need to be moved on.
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We dominated Liverpool yesterday, recently we've dominated all our games, if Villa only need 4 shots at goal to score twice how many goals would they get with 27 shots at goal?  Fact is our approach play is good, dominating the game is the hardest part of football, of course we can all see how woeful we are at converting chances (probably the worst I've EVER seen at any club) and we know how there is a f*ck up or two every game at the back but in all honesty we are not that far from being an elite team again.  Put it this way of the two teams yesterday I thought we looked 'closer' to being the real deal than Liverpool did.

 
Sconnie Blue said:
The criticism we've seen in the Felix thread the past several weeks is becoming justifiable. Bloke really shoots blanks in the final third, be it chance creation or finding the actual net.

So timid. 
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J-Wow is a football tourist working on his game and has no concern for the outcome. 

 
evissy said:
I disagree. Havertz was pretty good all game as the target. He missed one shot which admittedly was horrible but he made some great runs, was through on goal and unfortunately scored with hand. He made Alisson work a couple of times, Felix for example 0 times. 

His finishing should be better but Alisson was excellent you can't deny that. 

That is why managers pick him. If BS started Mudryk for example we wouldn't have had the chances he had in the game. The hate he gets here for not finishing is clouding everything else he is doing well. 
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It wasn't unfortunate that he scored with his hand, it was because his initial shot was your typical Havertz shot where he puts no power into it and tries to be flashy. If we are 1 or 2 up, fine, try a little dink over the keeper, but when we are 0-0, can barely manage a point or goal all season, just place it either side of the keeper. If Havertz was in a team fighting relegation, he would get them sent down. Actually, he probably wouldn't get the chance because no manager that low down would put up with him.

You say he gets hate just for the finishing, but you ignored all of the other points I bought up yesterday. Like his handball when played through to run at the Liverpool defense. How many times does he get caught for handball? It's a common trait with him. Then there was the control off his knee and out for a goalkick when Felix had a shot blocked. Just another example of Havertz being awful when it comes to his awareness. Then there was the wasted chance when Allison gave it away and he just pushed it back into the Liverpool box, wasting another great opportunity. He also didn't make great runs, especially in the second half when he kept drifting out wide instead of getting into the box so James had somebody to target with a cross. His passing at times was awful too, why can't he just kick the ball with a bit of power? The last thing you want when you are running at defenders is for one of your teammates to hold on to it and play a soft pass that takes an extra second or two to reach you. It breaks up all momentum and he does it more often than not. So many times I see our wide players stop running because Havertz has failed to play a pass through to them. I'm sure the likes of James and Chilwell would love to run on to a pass from Havertz but by the time one of his passes reaches them, they are ahead of the ball.

 
CFCCAN said:
.  It's a case of who plays alongside him on a regular basis, as much as I like Kovacic at times we really need someone in the middle who can score goals and sadly Kovacic isn't it, apart from the odd worldly now and then he's pretty much useless when attempting anything resembling a shot on goal. 
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I'd like to see Carney given a couple of games in a row, like Lewis Hall had, to see if Carney can play in this team. Yet Kovacic is probably in our best 11 right now.

 
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