personally i think this is a ridiculous statement but we'll see.It's not so much underestimating the step up, it's more that he doesn't have to do much to be better than our current wingers.
I'm not saying he won't face any struggles, that's normal for any player nevermind an 18 year old, but if he can do half of what he does in Brazil here then he's already better than our current wingers.personally i think this is a ridiculous statement but we'll see.
I'd be impressed if he manages 3 league goals in his first season, which is probably a better return than Neto can manage actually.I'm not saying he won't face any struggles, that's normal for any player nevermind an 18 year old, but if he can do half of what he does in Brazil here then he's already better than our current wingers.
But i think that you are only looking at technical ability, which is undeniable from the show reels.I'm not saying he won't face any struggles, that's normal for any player nevermind an 18 year old, but if he can do half of what he does in Brazil here then he's already better than our current wingers.
Endrick just started last game against a third division side in the cup and couldn't score, when players like Guler are getting a brace in the same game. Honestly, the step up from Brazil to European top leagues is HUGE.There is no doubt in my mind Estevao will be a top player. We as fans shouldn’t expect too much though. A massive life change for him and he will require time to settle and understand the PL.
Endrick isn’t the best comparison tbh as he has genuine world class players keeping him out. I don’t see the same problems for Estevao.
I can see Endrick moving on from Madrid and we might be the club that does it.
So Estevao, Santos, Paez and Anselmino are all just hopeful punts in reality. With such a HUGE step up from South America to the EPL, all of them could be found massively wanting. Oh well, the excitement was good while it lasted! Good news for Ligue1 though.Endrick just started last game against a third division side in the cup and couldn't score, when players like Guler are getting a brace in the same game. Honestly, the step up from Brazil to European top leagues is HUGE.
Agreed in general but Endrick has the quality I reckon.Endrick just started last game against a third division side in the cup and couldn't score, when players like Guler are getting a brace in the same game. Honestly, the step up from Brazil to European top leagues is HUGE.
Every youngster coming from South America is a gamble but they are considered the top talents on the continent.So Estevao, Santos, Paez and Anselmino are all just hopeful punts in reality. With such a HUGE step up from South America to the EPL, all of them could be found massively wanting. Oh well, the excitement was good while it lasted! Good news for Ligue1 though.
Naturally isn't going to be doing things like that in his first season here but there will be glimpses as there was with Ronaldo when he started.But i think that you are only looking at technical ability, which is undeniable from the show reels.
To me he looks lightweight for our league and will need time to acclimatize and "man up". C Ronaldo had significant potential but was just too lightweight when he first arrived. After he beefed up his potential was able to flourish.
I would be surprised to see any of what we are seeing on Youtube developing in the PL until maybe his second season here. I would still keep him here but i would be using him from the bench throughout that first year
I don't believe Anselmino belongs in the same bracket as those 3. Barco who went to Brighton was much highly rated.So Estevao, Santos, Paez and Anselmino are all just hopeful punts in reality. With such a HUGE step up from South America to the EPL, all of them could be found massively wanting. Oh well, the excitement was good while it lasted! Good news for Ligue1 though.
No doubt the step up is huge, but they are talents and deserve a chance. The prior comment on Endrick is somewhat misplaced also. Took Vini Jnr 3-4 years to settle at Madrid. Patience is key otherwise we’ll end up with a Salah or KDB scenario. Trouble is patience doesn’t win matches.So Estevao, Santos, Paez and Anselmino are all just hopeful punts in reality. With such a HUGE step up from South America to the EPL, all of them could be found massively wanting. Oh well, the excitement was good while it lasted! Good news for Ligue1 though.
Pretty much yeah. I think long term Estevao will 100% make it at the highest level, Paez will so long as his attitude is right and Santos is already PL ready. Anselmino i have no clue about as i've hardly seen anything about him.So Estevao, Santos, Paez and Anselmino are all just hopeful punts in reality. With such a HUGE step up from South America to the EPL, all of them could be found massively wanting. Oh well, the excitement was good while it lasted! Good news for Ligue1 though.
He 100% has the quality but i was just using him as an example that we shouldn't be looking at Estevao to come in next season and starting every week over the wingers we already have. It'll take a couple of years is all.Agreed in general but Endrick has the quality I reckon.
That was quite literally the point of the comment about Endrick. Vini was used as an example in the first place.No doubt the step up is huge, but they are talents and deserve a chance. The prior comment on Endrick is somewhat misplaced also. Took Vini Jnr 3-4 years to settle at Madrid. Patience is key otherwise we’ll end up with a Salah or KDB scenario. Trouble is patience doesn’t win matches.
I see. I was referring to the comment about starting against a third div side in the cup, and overlooked the preceding comments. My bad.That was quite literally the point of the comment about Endrick. Vini was used as an example in the first place.
This is the whole point of the discussion though. People are posting on here expecting him to come in and start every week and perform and he's going to be the saviour of our club.Vini was supposed to be Hazard’s understudy. Hazard’s injury forced Real to throw Vini in where he basically had to sink or swim.
That shouldn’t be the case with Estevao. At the moment it looks like he has players ahead of him until he gets the hang of the league.