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Ian Maatsen

Poch has likely watched videos of him at LB for Burnley. Defence wasn't a strong point, in fact not really a priority. It didn't matter so much at Burnley because they were a class above their Championship rivals. 

 
Sconnie Blue said:
Better than losing on a free. 
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Was always going to be tricky to give him game time with Chilwell here and being unable to shift Cucurella in summer. Didn't expect to see Colwill being used as an actual LB either. 

Seems to be fighting for a position in attack now where we're also stacked.

Lets hope he can keep working hard and force Poch's hand to get into the starting 11. Would be a shame to lose another academy product, but we could get £30m+ for him in summer. 

 
I don't think either Poch or the directors view Maatsen as a left back. Even at Burnley he was poor defensively and judging from what we've seen at Burnley and with us his value is certainly in the attacking end. 

Think we sell in January. 

 
Sconnie Blue said:
I don't think either Poch or the directors view Maatsen as a left back. Even at Burnley he was poor defensively and judging from what we've seen at Burnley and with us his value is certainly in the attacking end. 

Think we sell in January. 
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I'm worried if the directors opinion on a players position is being listened to.

His defensive numbers at Burnley last season are better than Chilwell's. Don't get this myth that gets regurgitated online about him being a bad defender at Burnley.

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For comparison with Robertson and Zinchenko, who most would agree are of the standard we should be after (Robertson multiple title winner and Zinchenko, although a whiny little bitch, is challenging for the league).

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RIP Mourinho said:
I'm worried if the directors opinion on a players position is being listened to.

His defensive numbers at Burnley last season are better than Chilwell's. Don't get this myth that gets regurgitated online about him being a bad defender at Burnley.

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For comparison with Robertson and Zinchenko, who most would agree are of the standard we should be after (Robertson multiple title winner and Zinchenko, although a whiny little bitch, is challenging for the league).

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It's not just the directors, its Poch as well who not once played Maatsen at LB. 

Also not sure comparing metrics with two different reference points, the Premier League & The Championship is the best way about it. 

 
Gonoir Beniashile said:
How else is he supposed to compare them since they're the respective leagues they played in? 
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Comparing players by their defensive metrics when the leagues in question are vastly different in quality will carry loads of discrepancies. I can only go by who actually watches him the most, and Burnley fans have praised his attacking qualities yet criticized his defensive game. Think his development has naturally blossomed his attacking game ala Bukayo Saka. From what I've seen so far from him in a Chelsea kit, LB is honestly one of the last positions i'd play him. He's a winger or CAM for me. 

Essentially a victim of circumstance. Can't get a game in attack even with Nkunku and Carney injured, and the club clearly don't value him as a LB. 

 
Sconnie Blue said:
It's not just the directors, its Poch as well who not once played Maatsen at LB. 

Also not sure comparing metrics with two different reference points, the Premier League & The Championship is the best way about it. 
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Not been played there because of the abundance of options we have tbf.

I don't see why they're not comparable. Burnley walked the Championship, so having such good defensive numbers in that side is even more impressive. Are we never able to compare players unless they've played in the same league?

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Not been played there because of the abundance of options we have tbf.

I don't see why they're not comparable. Burnley walked the Championship, so having such good defensive numbers in that side is even more impressive. Are we never able to compare players unless they've played in the same league?
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Playing against the likes of Reading, Blackpool, Wigan, Cardiff, QPR, Rotherham, etc? Last season they let in 35 goals for the season. This season they've already shipped 20. It's all relative.

 
dermott said:
Man City tonked them 6-0 last season with Maatsen at LB.
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They put 7 past Leipzig 4 days before that too. Burnley did better than a CL contending team. 

Not to mention 6 past Utd, and 4 past us, Spurs and Madrid in a single game. 

Good effort for a Championship club tbf.

 
You do back some strange horses at times RIP Mourinho LOL.

I think Maatsen is nailed on to be sold in January myself. And that's without any consideration for his contract status ... which only strengthens the case to sell him ... 

If he can hardly even get a sub appearance, let alone a start, when half the squad is unavailable, then what chance does he have when they're all fit ?

 
Sexyfootball said:
You do back some strange horses at times RIP Mourinho LOL.

I think Maatsen is nailed on to be sold in January myself. And that's without any consideration for his contract status ... which only strengthens the case to sell him ... 

If he can hardly even get a sub appearance, let alone a start, when half the squad is unavailable, then what chance does he have when they're all fit ?
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KDB and Salah couldn't get game time either!

I've only ever once been wrong, and that's when I thought I was wrong and I was actually right.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Not been played there because of the abundance of options we have tbf.

I don't see why they're not comparable. Burnley walked the Championship, so having such good defensive numbers in that side is even more impressive. Are we never able to compare players unless they've played in the same league?
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Different leagues will always have their discrepancies when comparing footballers but we are genuinely talking about two leagues where one is a complete division down, and the disparity in quality is massive. This will lead to incorrect insight and analysis. 

I could of sworn you made a post a few months back about Ugarte v Rice and how Rice's metrics should be held to a higher esteem considering he played in the Premier League. (If it wasn't you I apologize)

 
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