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Is Madueke's laughter a breach of discipline?

timetowaste said:
Shows a level of immaturity. If I'm being honest I don't think he has the mentality to play at the level we want to get back to. I think he could have a very solid career at a Crystal Palace/Fulham type team but I don't see him as a player at a top team. I'm happy to give him another season but in the summer if we were to get an offer for about what we paid for him I'd probably take it.
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I'm inclined to agree. I think he has much more to offer us than Sterling or Mudryk so he is far from the first wide player I'd look to move on. However looking longer term I'm not convinced there is a player bubbling under the surface who will deliver regularly at the level the club will be aiming to get to. 

If we had a stronger squad then he would be a reasonable back up player but I suspect we would consider selling if a reasonable offer came in.

I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist over the shot of him laughing after the final whistle yesterday.  Totally accept it didn't make for a good look and I was a bad loser at that age so it wouldn't have been my reaction. However I'm more interested in performance on the park and Madueke, whilst hot and cold, has impressed more than Sterling, Mudryk or Jackson (whilst still not looking totally convincing).

 
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I missed this, and although lack full context, the timing and perception are incredibly poor.  As said multiple times above, it reflects the current state of the club.  I'd bench him, but reality is the only way to change people is change people.  I only want players that really care and have a different level/will to win.  Makes you question Noni's will.

 
Jangz said:
I don’t think everything needs to be blamed on the board .. Madueke reaction shows he doesn’t care as much.

silva looked heart broken since it was his last chance to win with us.. Enzo is a winner and CG is chels!
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So started the course of young players Ted Lasso and his gang so this starts from the top.

 
Yeah if we get a really decent offer for him, take it.

His attitude isn’t great but there’s no denying he is one of our better wingers. I’d keep him for now while we are lacking quality. I agree with what a few have said, he’s never going to be a top level player, he’s too immature like Lingard/Pogba.

 
WhiteWall said:
How many times though @axman2526. Wasn't Madueke dropped earlier in the season for behavioural issues.

There comes a point where action has to be taken. See where he is at when he has been dropped for half a season or loaned out somewhere.
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Hmm that does ring a bell, though I don't remember what for. 

 
bisright1 said:
Genuinely couldn't give a toss. 

Different people react differently. 
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They do indeed, and, as a few of alluded to, it represents the changing of the guard at the club from the JT, Lamps and Silva type of person, to the Maduekes and Jackson's.

 
Munkunku said:
I think there are big issues in the world than a young man laughing after losing a football match.
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Certainly are, if you want to put the world to rights maybe make a topic for that in the none football section?

 
axman2526 said:
Certainly are, if you want to put the world to rights maybe make a topic for that in the none football section?
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He is spot on. You heard about the new watering down versions of scrabble?  Bloody outrageous. 

 
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axman2526 said:
They do indeed, and, as a few of alluded to, it represents the changing of the guard at the club from the JT, Lamps and Silva type of person, to the Maduekes and Jackson's.
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I care more about how they apply themselves on the pitch. Noni works hard. So does Jackson.

We may think they aren't good enough, but that isn't because they aren't trying. 

How someone reacts at full time is irrelevant. 

 
He can be decent for us but I do think there’s an attitude problem there with him and it’s likely why he hasn't started as many games for us over the course of the season. 

If we had the chance I would sell Mudryk and him tomorrow but it is what it is.

Saw a few mention he’s Palace level but just to put it in perspective. He wouldn’t even start for Palace right now and that’s the level of players we are currently dealing with. 

 

 
bisright1 said:
I care more about how they apply themselves on the pitch. Noni works hard. So does Jackson.

We may think they aren't good enough, but that isn't because they aren't trying. 

How someone reacts at full time is irrelevant. 
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I don't believe it is, but fair enough you think so.

 
axman2526 said:
Certainly are, if you want to put the world to rights maybe make a topic for that in the none football section?
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I just answered the question you asked dude, no reason to be a little bitch about it.

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Gol15 said:
This has some North Korean vibes, are players forbidden to laugh after a loss?
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A bit extreme comparing it to North Korea.

It's a passionate sport. Surely you can see how bad it looks for a player to be laughing immediately after losing a semi final, especially when you see the complete opposite reaction from his teammate in front of him.

I think it's fair to question how much this all means to Madueke and whether we want that kind of thing at the club. 

 
Scott Harris said:
A bit extreme comparing it to North Korea.

It's a passionate sport. Surely you can see how bad it looks for a player to be laughing immediately after losing a semi final, especially when you see the complete opposite reaction from his teammate in front of him.

I think it's fair to question how much this all means to Madueke and whether we want that kind of thing at the club. 
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Thank you Scott, a less extreme way of replying that I would have done. 

 
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