Name one team from the Qatari league.
Off the top of my head I can name teams from the other two potential host countries.
MLS - LA Galaxy, Chicago Red Bulls, Kansas Wizards
AFL - Melbourne, Brisbane, Richmond, Sydney Swans
Should the World Cup be moved?
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Off the top of my head I can name teams from the other two potential host countries.
MLS - LA Galaxy, Chicago Red Bulls, Kansas Wizards
AFL - Melbourne, Brisbane, Richmond, Sydney Swans
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AFL is an entirely different sport to Football, the first two you named are just cities and the 3rd/4th are actual AFL teams. The football league in Australia is called the A-League
This is AFL:
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Should the World Cup be moved could refer to either:
To the winter: NO.
Out of Qatar: Too f**king right.
The BBC reports today that "Fifa are facing fresh allegations of corruption over its controversial decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar."
Qatar World Cup: '£3m payments to officials' corruption claim
Fifa is facing fresh allegations of corruption over its controversial decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
The Sunday Times has obtained millions of secret documents - emails, letters and bank transfers - which it alleges are proof that the disgraced Qatari football official Mohamed Bin Hammam made payments totalling US$5m (£3m) to football officials in return for their support for the Qatar bid.
Qatar 2022 and Bin Hammam have always strenuously denied the former Fifa vice-president actively lobbied on their behalf in the run-up to the vote in December 2010.
But, according to emails obtained by the Sunday Times and seen by the BBC, it is now clear that Bin Hammam, 65, was lobbying on his country's behalf at least a year before the decision.
The documents also show how Bin Hammam was making payments directly to football officials in Africa to allegedly buy their support for Qatar in the contest.
Qatar strongly denies any wrongdoing and insists that Bin Hammam never had any official role supporting the bid and always acted independently from the Qatar 2022 campaign.
When approached by the Sunday Times to respond to their claims, Bin Hammam's son Hamad Al Abdulla declined to comment on his behalf.
Although the vast majority of the officials did not have a vote, the Sunday Times alleges Bin Hammam's strategy was to win a groundswell of support for the Qatari bid which would then influence the four African Fifa executive committee members who were able to take part in the election.
The Sunday Times also alleges that it has documents which prove Bin Hammam paid 305,000 Euros (£250,000) to cover the legal expenses of another former Fifa executive committee member from Oceania, Reynald Temarii.
Temarii, from Tahiti, was unable to vote in the contest as he had already been suspended by Fifa after he was caught out by a Sunday Times sting asking bogus American bid officials for money in return for his support.
But the paper now alleges that Bin Hammam provided him with financial assistance to allow him to appeal against the Fifa suspension, delaying his removal from the executive committee and blocking his deputy David Chung from voting in the 2022 election.
The paper claims that had Chung been allowed to vote he would have supported Qatar's rivals Australia. Instead there was no representative from Oceania allowed to vote, a decision which may have influenced the outcome in Qatar's favour.
The paper also makes fresh allegations about the relationship between Bin Hammam and his disgraced Fifa ally Jack Warner, from Trinidad.
Although Warner was forced to resign as a Fifa vice-president in 2011, after it was proved he helped Bin Hammam bribe Caribbean football officials in return for their support in his bid to oust the long-standing Fifa president Sepp Blatter, the paper says it has evidence which shows more than $1.6m was paid by Bin Hammam to Warner, including $450,000 in the period before the vote.
The new allegations will place Fifa under fresh pressure to re-run the vote for the 2022 World Cup, which was held in conjunction with the vote for the 2018 tournament, in which England were eliminated in the first round with just two votes.
Fifa's chief investigator Michael Garcia is already conducting a long-running inquiry into allegations of corruption and wrongdoing during the 2018/22 decisions. He is due to meet senior officials from the Qatar 2022 organising committee in Oman on Monday.
But that meeting may now have to be postponed in light of the Sunday Times revelations which have raised important new questions about the link between Bin Hammam and the successful Qatari World Cup campaign.
Bin Hammam was initially banned from football for life in July 2011 after being found guilty of attempted bribery.
The allegations centred around bids to buy votes in the Fifa presidential election of that year.
However his ban was annulled a year later by the Court of Arbitration for Sport which said there was insufficient evidence to support the punishment.
Bin Hammam then quit football saying he had seen the "very ugly face of football".
Fifa issued him with a second life ban in December 2012 for "conflicts of interest" while he was president of the Asian Football Confederation.
In March 2014, the Daily Telegraph reported a company owned by Bin Hammam had paid former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner and his family more than £1m. Payments were claimed to have been made shortly after Qatar won the right to host the 2022 World Cup.
So after two having received two life bans, Mohammed bin Hammam is still bang at it. Which even by FIFA's standards, takes some doing.
To the winter: NO.
Out of Qatar: Too f**king right.
The BBC reports today that "Fifa are facing fresh allegations of corruption over its controversial decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar."
Qatar World Cup: '£3m payments to officials' corruption claim
Fifa is facing fresh allegations of corruption over its controversial decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
The Sunday Times has obtained millions of secret documents - emails, letters and bank transfers - which it alleges are proof that the disgraced Qatari football official Mohamed Bin Hammam made payments totalling US$5m (£3m) to football officials in return for their support for the Qatar bid.
Qatar 2022 and Bin Hammam have always strenuously denied the former Fifa vice-president actively lobbied on their behalf in the run-up to the vote in December 2010.
But, according to emails obtained by the Sunday Times and seen by the BBC, it is now clear that Bin Hammam, 65, was lobbying on his country's behalf at least a year before the decision.
The documents also show how Bin Hammam was making payments directly to football officials in Africa to allegedly buy their support for Qatar in the contest.
Qatar strongly denies any wrongdoing and insists that Bin Hammam never had any official role supporting the bid and always acted independently from the Qatar 2022 campaign.
When approached by the Sunday Times to respond to their claims, Bin Hammam's son Hamad Al Abdulla declined to comment on his behalf.
Although the vast majority of the officials did not have a vote, the Sunday Times alleges Bin Hammam's strategy was to win a groundswell of support for the Qatari bid which would then influence the four African Fifa executive committee members who were able to take part in the election.
The Sunday Times also alleges that it has documents which prove Bin Hammam paid 305,000 Euros (£250,000) to cover the legal expenses of another former Fifa executive committee member from Oceania, Reynald Temarii.
Temarii, from Tahiti, was unable to vote in the contest as he had already been suspended by Fifa after he was caught out by a Sunday Times sting asking bogus American bid officials for money in return for his support.
But the paper now alleges that Bin Hammam provided him with financial assistance to allow him to appeal against the Fifa suspension, delaying his removal from the executive committee and blocking his deputy David Chung from voting in the 2022 election.
The paper claims that had Chung been allowed to vote he would have supported Qatar's rivals Australia. Instead there was no representative from Oceania allowed to vote, a decision which may have influenced the outcome in Qatar's favour.
The paper also makes fresh allegations about the relationship between Bin Hammam and his disgraced Fifa ally Jack Warner, from Trinidad.
Although Warner was forced to resign as a Fifa vice-president in 2011, after it was proved he helped Bin Hammam bribe Caribbean football officials in return for their support in his bid to oust the long-standing Fifa president Sepp Blatter, the paper says it has evidence which shows more than $1.6m was paid by Bin Hammam to Warner, including $450,000 in the period before the vote.
The new allegations will place Fifa under fresh pressure to re-run the vote for the 2022 World Cup, which was held in conjunction with the vote for the 2018 tournament, in which England were eliminated in the first round with just two votes.
Fifa's chief investigator Michael Garcia is already conducting a long-running inquiry into allegations of corruption and wrongdoing during the 2018/22 decisions. He is due to meet senior officials from the Qatar 2022 organising committee in Oman on Monday.
But that meeting may now have to be postponed in light of the Sunday Times revelations which have raised important new questions about the link between Bin Hammam and the successful Qatari World Cup campaign.
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More on bin Hammamm:Bin Hammam was initially banned from football for life in July 2011 after being found guilty of attempted bribery.
The allegations centred around bids to buy votes in the Fifa presidential election of that year.
However his ban was annulled a year later by the Court of Arbitration for Sport which said there was insufficient evidence to support the punishment.
Bin Hammam then quit football saying he had seen the "very ugly face of football".
Fifa issued him with a second life ban in December 2012 for "conflicts of interest" while he was president of the Asian Football Confederation.
In March 2014, the Daily Telegraph reported a company owned by Bin Hammam had paid former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner and his family more than £1m. Payments were claimed to have been made shortly after Qatar won the right to host the 2022 World Cup.
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So after two having received two life bans, Mohammed bin Hammam is still bang at it. Which even by FIFA's standards, takes some doing.
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Fifa vice-president 'would support' re-vote
Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27654587
Fair play to the British press for pushing this and not dropping it.
Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27654587
Fair play to the British press for pushing this and not dropping it.
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Are they really suggesting that the decision to award the World Cup to a desert state with 100 degree summers, no football pedigree to speak of and an iffy civil rights record, was not based on merit?
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Everyone leaves a paper trail. Time to get an outside entity to review FIFA's books (don't trust them to do their own).
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So apart from the 100 degree heat, the bans on alcohol, women and gays and the lacking of basic fundamental rights.
Also the lack of places of interest to visit or things for spectators to see or do, the heavy handed policing, the general smallness of the country and the fact that air-conditioned stadiums are totally sterile in virtually every sense...
...is it only the bribery that makes Qatar a bad choice?
Also the lack of places of interest to visit or things for spectators to see or do, the heavy handed policing, the general smallness of the country and the fact that air-conditioned stadiums are totally sterile in virtually every sense...
...is it only the bribery that makes Qatar a bad choice?
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You nailed it.
In view of FIFA's long standing tradition of corruption and bad decision making, I suggest we abolish both FIFA and the World Cup competition.
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The Qatar world cup (Ironically?) is the straw that broke the camels back (Do they have camels in Qatar or have they all died under slave labour?).
FIFA pushed their luck with this one and the fans and especially the British media are being very vocal in making their feelings known about their displeasure at the World Cup being granted to a nation whose sole interest is financial.
I would be very surprised if the vote is re-done and hopefully Australia is rightly granted it as they should have been in the first place.
You just know that Blatter will come out of all of this unscathed though and will most likely be re-elected as well.
FIFA pushed their luck with this one and the fans and especially the British media are being very vocal in making their feelings known about their displeasure at the World Cup being granted to a nation whose sole interest is financial.
I would be very surprised if the vote is re-done and hopefully Australia is rightly granted it as they should have been in the first place.
You just know that Blatter will come out of all of this unscathed though and will most likely be re-elected as well.
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I'd expect that Blatter, despite being the President and having overall responsibility for Fifa, will lay the blame on Bin Hammam and some low level fall-guys who will be sacked and replaced, and then Fifa will continue to function in exactly the same way as they have always done with Blatter remaining as President until he dies of old age. The investigation into Fifa's corruption is being led by Fifa after all.
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Irrespective of the investigation into the corruption claims, complaints from fans around the World and pressure from the media it will not stop FIFA having the World Cup in Qatar. FIFA will come up with all sorts of reasons why Qatar should host the World Cup. As has already stated by others, FIFA will blame everyone else but themselves. It's absolutely ridiculous that FIFA is investigating themselves. It's a bit like the MPs and Peers in the U.K. Parliament investigating themselves over the expenses scandal.
God fordbid that a player is seriously hurt from heat exhaustion. Who would FIFA blame then? God, for making it too hot? As for the discrimation against alcohol, women, gays I thought the World Cup was a competion to be enjoyed by people from all countries with a mixture of different religious, political and sexual backgrounds. And as for the disgraceful infringement on human rights.
We all know that there are plenty of countries e.g. England, USA and Australia which could host the World Cup.
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God fordbid that a player is seriously hurt from heat exhaustion. Who would FIFA blame then? God, for making it too hot? As for the discrimation against alcohol, women, gays I thought the World Cup was a competion to be enjoyed by people from all countries with a mixture of different religious, political and sexual backgrounds. And as for the disgraceful infringement on human rights.
We all know that there are plenty of countries e.g. England, USA and Australia which could host the World Cup.
Rant over.
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Headline from the Daily Mirror that I find it almost impossible to argue with:
Qatar World Cup corruption stench means FIFA is clearly no longer fit for purpose
The reason I say "almost" is that I can't remember a time when FIFA were fit for purpose. I've recently been reading a lot about João Havelange, who in his own way was every bit as bad as Sepp Blatter. To give just one example:
In 1999, De Telegraaf reported that Havelange accepted gifts of diamonds, bicycles, sports articles, Delft blue porcelain, paintings and art books, in connection with Amsterdam's failed bid for the 1992 Summer Olympic Games. "I remember it very well because he had special wishes, wishes which were in conflict with the IOC laws," said Peter Kronenberg, who headed the press office of the Amsterdam Olympic Games 1992 Foundation.
Another question that needs to be asked, is how a man like bin Hammam, another one with zero footballing background, from a country with even less footballing background,
Among the books I've been reading is Football In Sun And Shadow: An Emotional History of World Football by Eduardo Galeano, recently given to me by a friend (merci tres beaucoup!) and truly one of the best football books I've ever read, not only for its insights into the game, but into background politics, particularly, but not exclusively, in South America. .Written while Havelange was FIFA president, Galeano is scathing about FIFA, Havelange in particularl, but also describing Blatter as "a man who never kicks a ball but rides around in 25 foot limousines.
Sepp Blatter's first sporting love was tennis; João Havelange's sporting background is consists of water polo, for which he won a bronze medal in the 1951 Pan American Games, and swimming at the 1936 Olympics, druing which he failed to progress past the heats. Havelange progressed from the Brazilian Olympic Committee to the International Cycling Union, and from the to FIFA, where he defeated Stanley Rous largely thanks to financial support from Adidas, who "wished to supply Adidas branded equipment to the national federations",
Like Blatter and Havelange, Mohammed bin Hammam is another with zero footballing background, from a country with an equally non-existent footballing background. So how did such a man come o be vice-president of an organisation nominally responsible for governing the game of football worldwide. The answer, I'm afraid, is all too obvious, as is usually the case with FIFA. It's a fIve letter word, starts with an "m", ends with a "y" and with a "one" in the middle.
Qatar World Cup corruption stench means FIFA is clearly no longer fit for purpose
The reason I say "almost" is that I can't remember a time when FIFA were fit for purpose. I've recently been reading a lot about João Havelange, who in his own way was every bit as bad as Sepp Blatter. To give just one example:
In 1999, De Telegraaf reported that Havelange accepted gifts of diamonds, bicycles, sports articles, Delft blue porcelain, paintings and art books, in connection with Amsterdam's failed bid for the 1992 Summer Olympic Games. "I remember it very well because he had special wishes, wishes which were in conflict with the IOC laws," said Peter Kronenberg, who headed the press office of the Amsterdam Olympic Games 1992 Foundation.
Another question that needs to be asked, is how a man like bin Hammam, another one with zero footballing background, from a country with even less footballing background,
Among the books I've been reading is Football In Sun And Shadow: An Emotional History of World Football by Eduardo Galeano, recently given to me by a friend (merci tres beaucoup!) and truly one of the best football books I've ever read, not only for its insights into the game, but into background politics, particularly, but not exclusively, in South America. .Written while Havelange was FIFA president, Galeano is scathing about FIFA, Havelange in particularl, but also describing Blatter as "a man who never kicks a ball but rides around in 25 foot limousines.
Sepp Blatter's first sporting love was tennis; João Havelange's sporting background is consists of water polo, for which he won a bronze medal in the 1951 Pan American Games, and swimming at the 1936 Olympics, druing which he failed to progress past the heats. Havelange progressed from the Brazilian Olympic Committee to the International Cycling Union, and from the to FIFA, where he defeated Stanley Rous largely thanks to financial support from Adidas, who "wished to supply Adidas branded equipment to the national federations",
Like Blatter and Havelange, Mohammed bin Hammam is another with zero footballing background, from a country with an equally non-existent footballing background. So how did such a man come o be vice-president of an organisation nominally responsible for governing the game of football worldwide. The answer, I'm afraid, is all too obvious, as is usually the case with FIFA. It's a fIve letter word, starts with an "m", ends with a "y" and with a "one" in the middle.
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I'm not saying that Fergie was on the take, but it makes you wonder how far the corruption reached (article from 2010).
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