The John Terry Appreciation Thread

My first thought was that JT should have just quietly walked off the pitch yesterday, dignified manor and all that,,,,.. We would have done the same abuse as the QPha fans yesterday as we will to Gerrard when he comes to the bridge in a few weeks for example.

However thinking it through... Where are the Ferdinand Brothers now ?  How did England do in the world cup ? Will QPHa be in the premier league next season ?  Who looks likely to lift the biggest prize in FA have to offer this season ?

Get in there JT

Just as an aside, anyone notice that JT doesn't make the front pages when Jose is in charge ? Just saying.

 
My first thought was that JT should have just quietly walked off the pitch yesterday, dignified manor and all that,,,,.. We would have done the same abuse as the QPha fans yesterday as we will to Gerrard when he comes to the bridge in a few weeks for example.

However thinking it through... Where are the Ferdinand Brothers now ?  How did England do in the world cup ? Will QPHa be in the premier league next season ?  Who looks likely to lift the biggest prize in FA have to offer this season ?

Get in there JT

Just as an aside, anyone notice that JT doesn't make the front pages when Jose is in charge ? Just saying.
Michael Hann, QPR Fan and Guardian football journalist had a mini melt down on the match report yesterday. 

A Chelsea fan in so many words said "I don't know why QPR fans booed JT for the whole game, it's not like it's going to put him off, why don't they sing about their own team?" 

To which he replied:

"QPR fans boo John Terry because he racially abused one of QPR's players. And they boo Chelsea because they're the local rivals. And they boo them even more now because they closed ranks behind their captain, who racially abused one of QPR's players. Among the things QPR fans haven't done … pushed a black man off a train in Paris, from a carriage in which Chelsea players were singing racist songs in praise of their racist captain, sung offensive songs en masse all the way though a minute's silence for the victims of Hillsborough before an FA Cup semi-final …"

Now ignoring the tarring all us Chelsea fans with the same brush the bit that gets me is that they say the main issue they take is being JT abused a QPR player.

But can QPR fans honestly say they have a particular bond with Anton Ferdinand? I mean where is he now? In January 2013 they shipped him off on loan to Turkey and then he was released from his contract. 

He then signed for Turkish side Antalyaspor and made only 3 appearances all season. He's now at Reading (apparently) where he's only made 2 appearances. 

Point being, considering the noise they were making yesterday you could be forgiven for thinking JT had attacked a club legend... He didn't. In fact if you asked most of those booing fans yesterday why they were booing so much I'm sure they couldn't give you an answer much beyond "Terry's a racist". 

 
It's just a mob mentality, here's a little story for you. Back when I was at High School this lad had supposedly hit his girlfriend (turns out he didn't really but one guy got wind of a heated argument they'd had) and suddenly everyone wanted to kick his arse. Now they didn't want to because they had any connection to her (hardly any of them knew her) or hated him or even believed what he did was wrong they just wanted an excuse to gang up and beat on someone. Same mentality.

 
I am willing to bet that at least 50 per cent of the QPR fans giving JT stick yesterday, couldn't care less about racism, sexism, homophobia or any other ism/obia....It allows them to be as vile as possible while taking the moral high ground....

 
Michael Hann, QPR Fan and Guardian football journalist had a mini melt down on the match report yesterday. 

A Chelsea fan in so many words said "I don't know why QPR fans booed JT for the whole game, it's not like it's going to put him off, why don't they sing about their own team?" 

To which he replied:

"QPR fans boo John Terry because he racially abused one of QPR's players. And they boo Chelsea because they're the local rivals. And they boo them even more now because they closed ranks behind their captain, who racially abused one of QPR's players. Among the things QPR fans haven't done … pushed a black man off a train in Paris, from a carriage in which Chelsea players were singing racist songs in praise of their racist captain, sung offensive songs en masse all the way though a minute's silence for the victims of Hillsborough before an FA Cup semi-final …"

Now ignoring the tarring all us Chelsea fans with the same brush the bit that gets me is that they say the main issue they take is being JT abused a QPR player.

But can QPR fans honestly say they have a particular bond with Anton Ferdinand? I mean where is he now? In January 2013 they shipped him off on loan to Turkey and then he was released from his contract. 

He then signed for Turkish side Antalyaspor and made only 3 appearances all season. He's now at Reading (apparently) where he's only made 2 appearances. 

Point being, considering the noise they were making yesterday you could be forgiven for thinking JT had attacked a club legend... He didn't. In fact if you asked most of those booing fans yesterday why they were booing so much I'm sure they couldn't give you an answer much beyond "Terry's a racist". 
Not proven in court....but don`t let that get in the way to brand him a racist a

 
Not proven in court....but don`t let that get in the way to brand him a racist a
Mr Hann clearly feels rather strongly on the subject 

"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."

Slight case of sensationalism in that statement, I think he was just extremely bitter about the loss. 

 
The thing is that, like most sets of fans, they boo and abuse John Terry because they enjoy it.

Yes they hate him of course, he is Chelsea through and through and as showcased once again yesterday they hate us immensely.

But let's be honest- do those mongs throwing objects at our players (ranging from lighters to glass bottles) really still feel outraged about the (alleged) racial abuse? Do they actively give a sh*t about any other two year old incident of racism? Perhaps some do... I would bet that most don't actually give a sh*t.

Fact is they hate Chelsea and like to abuse our players and will use any stick possible to beat them with. And that is a big and popular stick.

They would have more of a moral high-ground to pretend to still be outraged about it if they weren't hurling objects at our players at every possible opportunity- make your mind up chaps, are you angels or thugs?

I loved the way JT celebrated in front of them as I know it will have wound them up. If it was me I would probably have done an Adebayor when we scored so I think JT was fairly restrained under the circumstances.

 
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"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."
It was the most exaggerated statement in the history of article comments...

 
And people wonder why Terry won't go back into international football, why would he want to play for a team supported by the same pathetic fans that give him constant abuse ?

 
Mr Hann clearly feels rather strongly on the subject 

"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."

Slight case of sensationalism in that statement, I think he was just extremely bitter about the loss. 
Actually very sound logic when it comes to verbal racial abuse.  In fact, if no witness was made available I struggle to understand how this case even made it to court considering the "victim" didn't know even hear anything and had to be told after the match he had allegedly been racially abused. If no one actually witnessed it and the victim didnt even hear it, could anyone rationally qualify that as criminal racial abuse worthy of an such an investigation costing lord knows how much? Racism is a very serious issue but I thought the whole thing was just a very expensive joke.

 
Actually very sound logic when it comes to verbal racial abuse. In fact, if no witness was made available I struggle to understand how this case even made it to court considering the "victim" didn't know even hear anything and had to be told after the match he had allegedly been racially abused. If no one actually witnessed it and the victim didnt even hear it, could anyone rationally qualify that as criminal racial abuse worthy of an such an investigation costing lord knows how much? Racism is a very serious issue but I thought the whole thing was just a very expensive joke.
The main evidence was footage and two lip readers/ speech therapists interpretation of it, it was inconclusive and Terry's explanation made sense to me. I posted the trial report on here somewhere.

 
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Yeah I'd like this too. Anyone have any paywall tips? It used to be that 'incognito mode' would do it but they seem to have cottoned onto that strategy now.
I tried taking a photo of the article with my phone, but couldn't load its size. Am going to try scanning.

 
Here is the article from The Times from Tony Evans:

Why John Terry should win player of the year — but won’t

Against the backdrop of Loftus Road, it is hard to see John Terry as anything other than despicable. Even more than his missed penalty in the Champions League final against Manchester United in Moscow, this patch of west London witnessed the nadir of his career.

There, against Queens Park Rangers four years ago, he shouted a racist phrase at Anton Ferdinand. It is never quite a return to the scene of a crime for the Chelsea captain because Westminster magistrates’ court ruled that the exchange was not criminal. The FA, with a lower burden of proof, found Terry guilty of racist abuse, banned him for four games and fined him £220,000.

The evidence yesterday was that he should be the primary candidate for the player of the year awards. This season, the 34-year-old has been magnificent. In the heat of a derby, with the home fans hurling abuse and his own supporters singing his praises, he was the centre of attention. His composure never faltered. He seems oblivious to the baggage he carries and the level of invective it generates away from Stamford Bridge.

Others would struggle to cope. Terry never seems to have difficulty with it. This knack would be admirable in a man it was possible to admire. It would be wrong to dismiss his impact on the pitch, though.

More than any other area of the pitch, the centre of defence appeared to be the place where Chelsea’s manpower was lacking. José Mourinho complained about being short-handed up front, but his squad is one experienced central defender short. It would not have taken too many injuries and suspensions to cause a crisis in the rearguard.

Only Terry, Branislav Ivanovic and Eden Hazard have played in every league game this season. Hazard gets all the attention and will probably win the end-of-season awards, but Chelsea would have won the league without the Belgium forward. They would not have won it without Terry.

Chelsea played what looked like a dangerously high line yesterday. Even though QPR are not the quickest up front, it still left plenty of space for Charlie Austin and Bobby Zamora to run into. Terry could have been exposed, but the defender’s anticipation and use of space compensate for any lack of pace.

His impact is not confined to tackles and blocks. All the best central defenders are talkers and Terry chatters away, cajoling, chiding, instructing and encouraging those around him. It is too bad that the most memorable words of his career were a racist insult.

Much about the Chelsea captain is objectionable. It would be hard to argue against the Football Writers’ Association’s “precept and example” objections to Terry winning their award, but Luis Suárez, last season’s recipient, fatally undermined the idea that character comes into consideration. Those who voted for the Uruguay forward would be hypocritical to cite Terry’s equally repugnant transgressions to deprive him of consideration for the award.

He will not win, though. Morality will not come into it. Hazard, with his dribbles and feints, will get many more votes. Harry Kane, too. Attackers dominate both the Professional Footballers’ Association award and the writers’ prizes. Terry got the votes of the players in 2005 — when his rap sheet was relatively short — but before that you have to go back to 1993, when Paul McGrath topped the poll, for another defender.

For the writers, a defensive winner is still deeper in the mists of time, with Steve Nicol handed the statue in 1989. Even then, the Scot caught the eye as much for his deployment as a midfield marauder as his adaptability across the back four.

Terry has been the best player in the Premier League this season, the one with the most influence on a team heading for the title, but it is a good thing that he will lose out when the individual prizes are decided. At least then we could convince ourselves that Suárez was an aberration.

He might reflect, however, that had he been a forward, he could have behaved like a scumbag and still cleaned up in the awards season.

 
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Tony Evans is a brave and wise man for writing that opinion piece.

I make no pretense of my admiration of our Captain, Leader and Legend. Frankly, much like the man himself, I couldn't give a sh*t what others think of him but it's nice all the same to see some high praise once in a while.

 
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