Achraf Hakimi

[ozboy]

I’m sorry but Neymar is not a world class player. Maybe, MAYBE, he was when he was at Barca alongside that team; now though, no chance. He is an absolute bottler of the highest caliber. Add to that a very weak personality that gets petulant when he loses; an insatiable desire to cheat and dive; the perfect package for someone that most certainly isn’t world class. Don’t let his FIFA rating fool you. 

His fifa rating doesn’t fool me, I don’t even know what it is. I’ve been watching neymar since Brazil u21 beat England in England and in my opinion when he is fit he is world class. Still I shouldn’t get drawn into such [ointless discussions. 

 

[Bob stark]

I’m sorry but Neymar is not a world class player. Maybe, MAYBE, he was when he was at Barca alongside that team; now though, no chance. He is an absolute bottler of the highest caliber. Add to that a very weak personality that gets petulant when he loses; an insatiable desire to cheat and dive; the perfect package for someone that most certainly isn’t world class. Don’t let his FIFA rating fool you. 

If Neymar is not wc, then I don't know who is

 

[ducavis]

If Neymar is not wc, then I don't know who is

Mount is, & so is James

 

[Bob stark]

Mount is, & so is James

Mount is very close, James as wb not even close. 

 

[rtwelch]

I’m a big fan of having a young player as a back up. So let’s back Livramento. Then you have Azpi as even more experienced back up if we need it.

 

[JM7]

Lots of reports saying that PSG is pretty much a done deal now. Reports also saying we didn’t actually make an offer and we were only in talks with agents. 

 

[Sexyfootball]

Lots of reports saying that PSG is pretty much a done deal now. Reports also saying we didn’t actually make an offer and we were only in talks with agents. 

Can't say I am going to be too distraught if we end up not signing a player I'd never heard of until a couple of weeks ago

 

[ducavis]

Mount is very close, James as wb not even close. 

No! & No! Can we stop branding good players as world class.

 

[Bob stark]

No! & No! Can we stop branding good players as world class.

Mount is very close imo.

 

[Bob stark]

Looks like Hakimi is off to Paris 

 

[LongtimerLurker]

1. Neymar is world class, anyone who disagrees pays too much attention to Neymar the man and not Neymar the player.

2. Hakimi going to PSG makes 0 difference to us, we won the ucl without him and can win the league without him. He would have been an upgrade to an already world class squad but that's it. 

3. The important thing is we now save the money we would have spent on this transfer and can put it towards a striker or dm. 

 

[haviet1]

Nothing lost here, perhaps a blessing in disguise.

 

[Sheva]

No! & No! Can we stop branding good players as world class.

Don’t want to derail the hakami thread but agreed. We have some amazing young players but let’s not call them world class. There’s a very good chance they will be in a few years. The only world class player we have in my opinion is Kante. He would walk into any team on the planet. Others wouldn’t. We have a team full of potential. 

 

[DidierDrogbalala]

Adama Traoré rumors in 3,,2,,1,,,

 

[SFL82]

Mount is very close imo.

I mean killer passes to win CL finals he isn’t far but not yet a world class player, world class players effect games pretty much every time they play he could be WC in a couple of years if he keeps going at this trajectory. 
 

Kante is our only world class player with Havertz having world class ability. There’s probably only 20-25 world class players in football today 

 

[Bob stark]

I mean killer passes to win CL finals he isn’t far but not yet a world class player, world class players effect games pretty much every time they play he could be WC in a couple of years if he keeps going at this trajectory. 
 

Kante is our only world class player with Havertz having world class ability. There’s probably only 20-25 world class players in football today 

For me it is more of Mount total performance for the entire last season. He was given responsibility to be the main creator and connector between midfield and forward and he did these double jobs very2 well against many top flight competitors. He isn't wc but he is getting closer. 

Havertz isn't wc, potential for sure, but not right now. Like you said in our team right now Kante is the only one who is wc, silva was one but he clearly has lost two steps.

Just a couple years ago we had 5. Costa, Hazard, cesc (maybe a bit too old when we got Kante), Kante and one gk. You can argue whether Diego is wc or not but he was damn good. 

 

[SydneyChelsea]

Pretty ambivalent on Hakimi. He's a speed merchant who has done very well in a defensively atrocious Serie A, but at the price quoted we have much more pressing needs. The main reason is that it is based on the assumption that Tuchel is going to stick with 3-at-the-back formations; historically, he is a notorious formation tweaker. I'm not sold on his ability on the ball either; Reece James is one of the best crossers/passers in the team already, and is able to hit hard, first-time crosses, whereas Hakimi has spent a season with all the time in the world on the ball to pick out the towering Lukaku.

In saying that, Hakimi is one of the fastest players in the world and in the EPL where teams need to counter-attack quickly, that means a lot. James and especially Chilwell are fast, but Hakimi's speed is a notch above and maybe Tuchel's thinking is that he could be developed into a 2-in-1 player who is reliably able to support counter-attacks and defense. In 3-at-the-back he's a wingback, and in a 4-at-the-back he's an orthodox winger.

 

[strider6004]

For me James is better at RCB, though he can hit a decent cross normally they don't have enough pace or accuracy to trouble the opposition defence.

Whether Hakimi is right for us not sure though obviously we see a need as before Hakimi we were being linked with Traore.

 

[ducavis]

Pretty ambivalent on Hakimi. He's a speed merchant who has done very well in a defensively atrocious Serie A, but at the price quoted we have much more pressing needs. The main reason is that it is based on the assumption that Tuchel is going to stick with 3-at-the-back formations; historically, he is a notorious formation tweaker. I'm not sold on his ability on the ball either; Reece James is one of the best crossers/passers in the team already, and is able to hit hard, first-time crosses, whereas Hakimi has spent a season with all the time in the world on the ball to pick out the towering Lukaku.

In saying that, Hakimi is one of the fastest players in the world and in the EPL where teams need to counter-attack quickly, that means a lot. James and especially Chilwell are fast, but Hakimi's speed is a notch above and maybe Tuchel's thinking is that he could be developed into a 2-in-1 player who is reliably able to support counter-attacks and defense. In 3-at-the-back he's a wingback, and in a 4-at-the-back he's an orthodox winger.

Can he actually hit a good cross? I don’t think hitting the byline and lofting the ball into the box qualifies as a good cross. 4 assists in 41 PL starts supports this, and I don’t think it’s a lack of 20 goal forward issue. Worth remembering he also takes a large chunk of our dead balls. 
 

Personally feel his attacking game needs serious work, and he needs solid competition. 

 

[jack_super_class]

Little disappointed we didn't get him, one of the best in the world in his position and only 22. But also not the end of the world when we have James and Hudson Odoi did well their last season too. I honestly rather buy Tariq Lamptey back though if i had the choice between Hakimi and Lamptey.