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Jhon Duran

Signing Duran means two things - we don’t get the instant upgrade many are wanting but it also means we trust Jackson to continue developing and will still be our main striker next season. If the fee is reasonable (20-30 mill) I think thats a good decision.Between Jackson, Duran and Nkunku we should be well covered in the SC position with three players offering different things, which can only be a plus

 
Really can't understand how we want a new manager to finish in the top 4 and we supply him with a player who's started 5 games for Villa.

 
Sheva said:
Really can't understand how we want a new manager to finish in the top 4 and we supply him with a player who's started 5 games for Villa.
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We literally finished 5 points off Top 4 with an injury crises and Poch f**king up the team 75% of the time

 
Sheva said:
Really can't understand how we want a new manager to finish in the top 4 and we supply him with a player who's started 5 games for Villa.
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Signing the 20 year old backup striker from a better team to be your backup striker  sounds like a good idea to me 

 
Other than puns I am really not sure what the value of Duran would be. . . why dont we just wait to see what striker does above average at the Euros 2024 and then completely over pay for them?



IF Broja does well at the euros I think we should buy him.

 
bisright1 said:
Signing the 20 year old backup striker from a better team to be your backup striker  sounds like a good idea to me 
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We have Datro Fofana and Washington who both cost in total around 30m.

Sconnie Blue said:
We literally finished 5 points off Top 4 with an injury crises and Poch f**king up the team 75% of the time
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Now we start again and we will probably sell the likes of Conor to fund these players. We need players to come in and hit the ground running from the get go though I am content with Jackson being first choice but why sign Duran when you have other young strikers on the books who've had 0 chances.

It's poor recruitment, even if Duran is a better player it just shows how much money we've wasted on other players if we have no faith already.

 
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Sheva said:
Now we start again and we will probably sell the likes of Conor to fund these players. We need players to come in and hit the ground running from the get go though I am content with Jackson being first choice but why sign Duran when you have other young strikers on the books who've had 0 chances.

It's poor recruitment, even if Duran is a better player it just shows how much money we've wasted on other players if we have no faith already.
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Because neither Fofana or Washington are physical enough or have an aerial presence to hold their own against Premier League defenders. 

As far as the last sentence, I am not sure why you are so surprised. Clearlake's model from the beginning was that there will be players who will make it here and there will be players that will be sold on for a book value profit. 

 
I haven’t watched him (due to him not getting games at Villa) but whilst he apparently has potential, 40 million seems very steep! No idea how much he’d cost but evanilson has just had 32 goal involvements in 45 matches in Portugal the season just gone and he’s fairly robust. Guirasy has a very cheap release clause and at his age could allow the fofana or Washington to bulk up and develop. I’m sure with the amount of scouts we have out there the club could find a physically imposing wonder kid in South America and save money.

 
Although I wouldn’t listen to me I was watching Atalanta in the europa league this season and was impressed by Scamaca thinking he held the ball up well and linked well with the players around him, then realised he was a West Ham flop

 
Sconnie Blue said:
Because neither Fofana or Washington are physical enough or have an aerial presence to hold their own against Premier League defenders. 

As far as the last sentence, I am not sure why you are so surprised. Clearlake's model from the beginning was that there will be players who will make it here and there will be players that will be sold on for a book value profit. 
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Not surprised but just frustrated.

This club needs to stop spending money and accept the position they got themselves in with poor recruitment. If they sell the likes of Datro and Casadei this window it just shows they don't know how to develop players because how is a player going to be ready at the age of 20 and on loan in a new environment. Would not be surprised if someone like Casadei goes on to become a top player in Italy with proper development and game time.

 
carefree franco said:
Although I wouldn’t listen to me I was watching Atalanta in the europa league this season and was impressed by Scamaca thinking he held the ball up well and linked well with the players around him, then realised he was a West Ham flop
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West Ham have a way of getting it wrong. They used him as a target man.

 
Sheva said:
Not surprised but just frustrated.

This club needs to stop spending money and accept the position they got themselves in with poor recruitment. If they sell the likes of Datro and Casadei this window it just shows they don't know how to develop players because how is a player going to be ready at the age of 20 and on loan in a new environment. Would not be surprised if someone like Casadei goes on to become a top player in Italy with proper development and game time.
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He has the game. Serie A is a lot less demanding than the PL

 
Please tell me this is just some Twitter rando looking for engagement. Why they hell would we pay £40+m for a striker that can't even get in the Villa team? We already have a young striker we don't use in Washington. If we end up selling Gallagher and Chalobah and sign this guy, the fans are rightfully going to be pissed.

 
Sconnie Blue said:
I think the plan is to continue with Jackson and trust his development. Duran offers something different and could potentially compete with Jackson. 

It's much better than 60m on Sesko. 
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If it is 25mill then could well be. If is 40mill plus on Duran or 60mill on Sesko would sooner sesko, think he will be a better all round forward.

 
Sconnie Blue said:
You see, this is a lot more reasonable. Hopefully this is the agreed price. 
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But even at that £25m it is still only comparable to Guirassy who has a proven track record and would work well with Jackson to develop him, rather than bringing in a player more raw than Jackson was. Don't get it, sorry.

 
WhiteWall said:
But even at that £25m it is still only comparable to Guirassy who has a proven track record and would work well with Jackson to develop him, rather than bringing in a player more raw than Jackson was. Don't get it, sorry.
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Think the directors/owners trust Jackson's development and at most want someone that competes with him vs outright starts over him. 

I don't agree with it either but my neck isn't the one on the line. 

 
I reckon it will be a package of 45mill, with 25mill the initial fee, making both reports right.

20mill payable based on easy and hard targets. Certain number of goals, us making CL, winning a trophy etc.

 
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