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Kendry Paez

Looks like he's done here. Football is not for everyone I guess.

Speaking to the media on Tuesday, the 44-year-old manager did not mince his words when addressing Paez's immediate future in west London. "No, no. He is not part of the plans," Alonso stated bluntly. "At the moment, he is not part of the first team squad."

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/xabi-alonso-axes-chelsea-star-081858654.html

No one wants him so he may stick around for a bit.

 
The South American Ravel Morrison.

Still time to turn a corner, but seems his attitude stinks.

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What's gone wrong for Chelsea talent Kendry Paez?Kendry Paez was one of the world's best young talents when Chelsea signed him as a 16-year-old. Three years later, he's playing for the Under-21s. So what has gone wrong?


 
Seen Chelsea were putting some heavy PR about him earlier on socials through their usual channels
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Had high hopes, but really not sure what's next for him. Neither loan has worked out, with noises made about his attitude. Now he's back with us, hopefully he gets the wake up call he needs, knuckles down and improves. But the signs aren't great if he's struggling to start in the U21 team at 19 years of age.

 
I watched a fair bit of him and Estevao when we initially signed them and I thought Paez was more ready to make an impact.

Attitude is everything. Attitude has got some players to the top of the game who’ve had less ability than Paez. Ability makes the journey a bit easier but no chance without the right attitude.

I hope he sorts his sh*t out but I’ve a feeling he’ll end up bumping around the South American leagues before retiring at 29 because he can’t be arsed anymore.

 
Definitely been caught up in the lifestyle. Grew up in a poverty area and then suddenly is given a nice contract at us and then probably from what I have heard is spending his money unwisely. attending parties and now not committing to football the way he was before. It is so important for young players to remain grounded and not get caught up in the lifestyle. Social media does not help as well. I guarantee you a lot of these players are on instagram messaging girls etc which they are full well entitled to do but when it distracts you from your job, then of course it becomes an issue.

 
Definitely been caught up in the lifestyle. Grew up in a poverty area and then suddenly is given a nice contract at us and then probably from what I have heard is spending his money unwisely. attending parties and now not committing to football the way he was before. It is so important for young players to remain grounded and not get caught up in the lifestyle. Social media does not help as well. I guarantee you a lot of these players are on instagram messaging girls etc which they are full well entitled to do but when it distracts you from your job, then of course it becomes an issue.
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All of this is normal and healthy for a teenage male. Footballers are not ascetics and despite what the holier-than-thou media might say, there are many (if not the majority) young male and female professional athletes who are both highly-performing and also living "the lifestyle". Conversely, there are many very bog-average footballers who are 'model professionals'. Yamal gets hammered from pillar to post about his lifestyle and he's still the best young player in the world. Rooney was bagging both goals and grannies at Paez's age. Reece James and Christian Pulisic have been model professionals since they were teenagers and there are still doubts as to whether their bodies are capable of professional sport.

It's way easier to blame a teenage boy's supposed moral failings than accept that wealthy clubs used him as a trading asset rather than a footballer.

 
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All of this is normal and healthy for a teenage male. Footballers are not ascetics and despite what the holier-than-thou media might say, there are many (if not the majority) young male and female professional athletes who are both highly-performing and also living "the lifestyle". Conversely, there are many very bog-average footballers who are 'model professionals'. Yamal gets hammered from pillar to post about his lifestyle and he's still the best young player in the world. Rooney was bagging both goals and grannies at Paez's age. Reece James and Christian Pulisic have been model professionals since they were teenagers and there are still doubts as to whether their bodies are capable of professional sport.

It's way easier to blame a teenage boy's supposed moral failings than accept that wealthy clubs used him as a trading asset rather than a footballer.
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We all tend to forget just how young some of these footballers actually are.

Often many come from poverty and from points east , west , south ( not many from the north) to a culture , an environment which which is a million miles ( metaphorically) from the one they get thrust into add to that their new found wealth away from family and friends all adds to the perils.

I wasn’t ready to move for work well into my is twenties and even then I didn’t face the challenges of language, adulation etc.

 
I suppose it’s hard to have mentors & role models to guide younger players when your first team is full of babies and the experienced player from South America was Enzo Fernandes; mega c**t.

 
Seems to be having absolutely no impact for the Youth (or CNG if you’re that way inclined).
Ready to write this one off now, all the god given talent but absolutely no work ethic/mentality at all.
 
A real shame, looked a talent on par with Estevao when come through at Independiente. World at his feet and he’s f**ked it up. Got to credit Estevao in that regard as his attitude is top notch and not moaned once in public about his play time.
 
I’d argue the club has a fairly big duty of care towards him.
If we simply pay off his contract and release him there’s a more than decent chance he’d be in a gutter, penniless in a couple of years.
The BlueCo transfer model would be a bit more palatable if there was evidence of a robust support system for youngsters like Paez. We’ve had him living with little support it would seem in 3 different countries and he’s not yet 20. Sure his attitude has been poor to non existent but I’d argue the club hasn’t helped him to succeed.
 
We actively f**ked him over when we told him he'd play in London, and then we binned him to Strasbourg. Shades of American-style player trading, has no place in football. It is the work of idiots like Sam Jewell and the other fools in recruitment at this club who think that real humans operate like Football Manager.

Had he come to London to be surrounded by someone like Moises Caicedo, instead of being told to fend for himself at 19, he would undoubtedly be in a better place.
 
SydneyChelsea said:
We actively f**ked him over when we told him he'd play in London, and then we binned him to Strasbourg. Shades of American-style player trading, has no place in football. It is the work of idiots like Sam Jewell and the other fools in recruitment at this club who think that real humans operate like Football Manager.

Had he come to London to be surrounded by someone like Moises Caicedo, instead of being told to fend for himself at 19, he would undoubtedly be in a better place.
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He is in London.
The club is trying to get his career path back on track. If they can get him playing regularly in the under 21s by January they maybe able to get a Championship loan at a club that has a set up that suits him and actually plays him.
For this to happen he needs to make an effort to adapt to life in another country. The club can help him in this and I'm sure they have staff at Cobham that help out with these issues. He may need a bit longer but he is only 19 and still has time. He needs to shake off the bad apple label though.
 
Andy North said:
He is in London.
The club is trying to get his career path back on track. If they can get him playing regularly in the under 21s by January they maybe able to get a Championship loan at a club that has a set up that suits him and actually plays him.
For this to happen he needs to make an effort to adapt to life in another country. The club can help him in this and I'm sure they have staff at Cobham that help out with these issues. He may need a bit longer but he is only 19 and still has time. He needs to shake off the bad apple label though.
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I'm referring to when he first came. The club originally told him he would move to London and play in the CWC, but at the last minute we scrapped that and told him to go to Strasbourg. It was very, very poor. It's one thing to move to England and adjust to the culture, it's another to prepare yourself for a year to do so only to be told you're going to a completely different country and culture at the last moment.

As I said earlier in this thread, it's easy for us to clutch pearls and blame young players for 'bad attitudes'. I think that's the male self-help version of astrology. A player's success is much more dependent on factors in their environment that they cannot control, and that clubs need to do better to support them with. Clubs provide translators and domestic help, but they don't provide friends or family. That's where mentors among teammates come in.
 
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I'm referring to when he first came. The club originally told him he would move to London and play in the CWC, but at the last minute we scrapped that and told him to go to Strasbourg. It was very, very poor. It's one thing to move to England and adjust to the culture, it's another to prepare yourself for a year to do so only to be told you're going to a completely different country and culture at the last moment.

As I said earlier in this thread, it's easy for us to clutch pearls and blame young players for 'bad attitudes'. I think that's the male self-help version of astrology. A player's success is much more dependent on factors in their environment that they cannot control, and that clubs need to do better to support them with. Clubs provide translators and domestic help, but they don't provide friends or family. That's where mentors among teammates come in.
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I believe it was Maresca's call to not name him in the CWC squad although he did travel. His "attitude " issues apparently started before he came to the UK with both his loans ending early amid reports of late night clubbing.
I don't agree a player's success more dependant on factors in their environment that they can't control. If a player buckles down and truly seeks to reach their full potential then the world will come looking for you.
I'm not writing Kendry off, but, he needs needs to buckle down and at least try to be a professional player. At the moment he's not a regular in U21 team so he needs to improve.
 
He had issues with visiting night clubs and vaping etc. when he was 16 and still at the club we signed him from while away on International duty. Caicedo would have been on the same International duty, so i don't think we can say being at Chelsea with Caicedo would have helped him. Some people need to help themselves.
 
19seventyone said:
I’d argue the club has a fairly big duty of care towards him.
If we simply pay off his contract and release him there’s a more than decent chance he’d be in a gutter, penniless in a couple of years.
The BlueCo transfer model would be a bit more palatable if there was evidence of a robust support system for youngsters like Paez. We’ve had him living with little support it would seem in 3 different countries and he’s not yet 20. Sure his attitude has been poor to non existent but I’d argue the club hasn’t helped him to succeed.
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Why should he be provided with any more support than any of the multitude of academy youngsters that are similarly hyped up, devote their lives to a possible future in football to only then be discarded. I get the fact that he is in a different country but he isn't on minimum wage and i am pretty sure that he isn't living with some family in digs somewhere.
 
His issues pre-date his transfer to Chelsea. Disciplined by Ecuador for off-field behaviour. You have to wonder whether Chelsea's due diligence took such into account.
 
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His issues pre-date his transfer to Chelsea. Disciplined by Ecuador for off-field behaviour. You have to wonder whether Chelsea's due diligence took such into account.
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What due diligence? These are the same people that decided to sign Garnacho, Enzo Fernandez, Fofana and Neto.
 
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